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And yea... February 2014 sucked just as bad every other storm here.

20 hours ago, YetAnotherRDUGuy said:

I'm sorry man. I had no idea.

I don't pretend to be an expert on SC climo, but I know enough to be genuinely surprised by this.

Not even Feb 2014?? Actually I took a quick glance at that, and it looks like that was E of you.

Nor Jan 96?

Not even 93?

Ugh

 

Nope, 3 inches of slop in 93, and a little under 3 inches in 96.

Oddly enough the 2nd biggest snowfall I have ever measured was 4 inches on the nose and it was a dinky clipper system that hit at daybreak in the late 90's. I got maxima'd under a little band for a couple hours and picked up 4 inches while most other places in the upstate got an inch or two. I was living in Walhalla at the time for this storm, Clemson only got an inch or so.

For that event, I can name you 20 events where we have gotten absolutely screwed. The two classic examples of places due South of here getting way more snow than I've ever seen would be February 2004, March 1, 2009, and Feb 2010.  

February 2004 probably stung the worst of them all.  I got a freaking DUSTING from that storm...

9 minutes ago, Waiting on snow said:

No CAE has the honor of being the epic screwzone. They haven't had snow at all in 5 years.

Except they got 8.6 inches in feb 2010. The only event in history where the northern extent of precip was not under modeled... screwing the upstate.

I'll believe the SSW stuff when it actually happens. Every year since 2010/2011, there is talk about it happening based off long range modeling and it never materializes.

15 hours ago, YetAnotherRDUGuy said:

A lot of whining for an event in early friggin December.

Fuquay is always jealous of Raleigh. Which is envious of Durham ( in regards to snow—not anything else) which is jealous of Hillsborough and Roxboro, and Burlington,which in turn—is envious of GSO. Of which, the gate city is envious of WS, which is usually jealous of Wilkesboro, of whom typically looks to Boone and wishes their snow totals were more like theirs:

This applies to locales in SC as well—along with pretty much anything related to weather, and a lot of things that aren’t. 

TL;Dr, if your mad, reset your expectations, and realize that chances are—someone is going to have more snow than you most of the time. 

Also, I respect kvegas for speaking his mind about not wanting a foot of snow and in the future. Even though I completely disagree with the entire point he was trying to make. The fact that someone in the SE may actually be pulling AGAINst getting a foot of snow makes me reconsider the entire fabric of what makes our universi functional.

 

 

 

 

Your logic if flawed for Clemson, SC. You can pick any city out of a hat in Alabama/GA/SC/NC and they have had a bigger snow in the last 25 years than here.

Since 1988 the biggest single snowfall event in Clemson, SC was 5.75 inches on 1/11/2011. Second biggest snowfall in that time period is less than 4 inches.

So in Summary, I'm not just jealous of Asheville, NC. I'm jealous of Columbia, Augusta, Atlanta, Macon, Charleston, Myrtle Beach, Birmingham, Athens, Columbus, Charlotte, etc.etc.etc.

of course i'm getting crushed in a precip maxima of upper level energy for the first time in my life... and it's rain.

3.21 inches for my rainfall total here which produced 1.25 inches of sleet accumulation. That isn't the ratio I was hoping for.

I can tell you the Fv3GFS absolutely nailed the thermal profile here for our storm and we wound up with 1.25 inches of sleet. If you had simply went by the TT kuchera snowmap for my location it was showing 6 inches of snow right up to the event start time. The map/algorithm just can't accurately describe ground truth and it was just wrong, but all of the measurable air data on the fv3 was accurate, and I got what I expected from the strom based off the fv3 data.

To talk further about this specific storm in charlotte. A lot of models were showing a possible "sleet" sounding, but in reality the low level cold pool may not have been deep enough to freeze the water droplets leading to plain rain.  The skew-T could have been dead accurate by that models prediction, but the clown map/precip type map is not sophisticated enough to read a sounding and accurately describe would is falling from the sky with that sounding at every point location in the region.

So precip type map may show all of charlotte in the sleet color zone, when in reality it's simply raining there, but the model did not bust on it's analysis,(other than the precip type maps).

36 minutes ago, KyleEverett said:

Nearly every model but the NAM was too cold for Charlotte and York County to the south. I'm down around exit 77 area and while sleet has mixed in, there's been 0 accumulation of anything.

Every model wasn't too cold for Charlotte if you don't base a model busting or verifying off the clown map predictions which honestly mean nothing in terms of what a model is actually showing.

For instance, some clown maps don't account for warm air above 850mb... some of them don't account for surface temps being above freezing...

As an example: If the GFS is showing a moderate snow sounding at noon with all layers below freezing except the surface temperature is 34 degree's for 3 hours. It's clown maps will show 3 inches of accumulations, but in reality there be 0 accumulation due to the 34 degree surface temperature and solar insolation.

If that verified exactly as the model predicted, there would be 0 accumulation, but Mack would be on here a few hours later crying about how terrible GFS did with his snowstorm.

Just took a measurement here. 1.25 inches of all sleet on the car tops, 1 inch of sleet on the roads. It appears the 1/2 inch of snow I got last night has completely melted. Temperature has never went below freezing as it's 32.7 right now and everything is wet/slushy. 2.87 inches in the rain gauge for this storm, not counting what ice hasn't melted.

Woke up to a solid inch of sleet on the ground and roads here with a temp at 32.  and its ripping sleet at the moment. Congrats to everyone who cashed in with the big snow totals.

absolute parachute flakes sailing down here... some of the biggest flakes i've ever seen. Seem to be having trouble accumulating though as we're still at 33.. got about 1/2 inch on the grass and elevated surfaces.

It's hammering half dollars here now mixed with nickel size globs of ice chunks. 

1 minute ago, Iceagewhereartthou said:

Do you have a link for cc radar?

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=GSP-N0C-0-6

90% sleet 10% snow, and it's absolutely puking chunks of ice from the sky. 

I can't catch a break on the CC radar... looks like i'm gonna be 1/2mile too far south for the next hour.

Down to 32.9 with snow/sleet mix. We are way ahead of schedule. I wasn't expecting a flip to sleet until around midnight, and didnt expect to hit the freezing mark until 2 or 3am at the earliest.

snow mixing with sleet now, though cc radar is stalling the line and moving it back north. I can't complain though, already more flakes than i expected.

sleet beginning to mix in with the rain here in Clemson.

Left my inlaws house at 3000 feet on the nc/sc border at hwy 178. They live on the west facing side of the mountain and had only gotten about an inch of snow with a temp of 33. Drove 1/4 mile down the road to the east side of the slope and there was 4 inches on the ground at 31 degree's and it was absolutely ripping,(at a lower elevation).  I guarantee you that location is at 7 or 8 inches by now and still ripping.

At 2700' on hwy 178 at the divide there was about 2 inches on the ground and ripping when we came through an hour and half ago.  When we dropped below 2000' it switched to a white rain with no snow on the ground. Continued like that all the way back to Clemson where it's currently 37 and miserable.

Rain mixing with snow here at 3000ft Near hwy 178... sorry I came up here and jinxed you guys!

cc radar pulsed way far north... hopefully it’ll move back down

18z nam looks way better for the upstate. It’s now showing a burst of heavy snow from 8 to midnight before the warm nose flips us to sleet

Over a half inch of rain already in clemson.

Nancy mountian at 3000 feet On nc/sc border

3 minutes ago, Rainforrest said:

Are you headed to your in-laws place?

Yea, we’re gonna hang out here until this evening, then head back home if we can make it.