Jonathan

Screw it, I'm moving to northern Kentucky. They always seem to rack up, especially since 2010. They get FROPAs, clippers, cutters and phasers. Plus, they're always colder than anywhere east of the Apps.

I know you already know this, but even though the quote...wait for it...one of our favorite words here..."VERBATIM" is false, we (west of Raleigh) did see how an overly COLD *pattern* can indeed squash (literally and metaphorically) the hopes and dreams of any snow in (most of) the southeast. No one outside of the beaches/far eastern areas had a chance with the PV and those insane HPs destroying any chance of a widespread winter storm. So even though taken literally the quote is wrong, it's not THAT wrong. Those folks were indeed in a similar type of pattern where it was super cold and they didn't see snow in those particular periods. Since there are no storms to analyze, we may as well analyze old wise tales, etc.

Massive 1040+ HP straight down into Cuba. Where have we seen this before? Ninas gonna Nina. Northern stream rules the winter.

GFS with a massive jump south WRT the 1/13 system. From cutting up the Apps thru NY state to now forming in the Gulf and riding up thru Savannah-Columbia-Jacksonville NC-DelMarVa with a 1044HP in eastern Canada.

I think all members south and east of RDU should leave the board for ten years.

Why I'm pissed FOR anyone on this board inside this circle. Hopefully most are seeing snow on either side of Raleigh. This is insane.

Lucky. ~50 miles to your NNW, nothing.

Please tell me this isn't real. Jesus you guys.

That doesn't look like a Buick... Sharp ride burns!

inb4 "the EURO ain't what it used to be!" posts

CFS's got you fam! Gonna be a Jammin' January!

Here come the plethora of 10-or-less-post-having random Myrtle Beach posters going nuts in the 1/3-4 thread. lul Why do you love snow and live in Myrtle Beach? Get real. Move.

HM (I'm paraphrasing here) basically said on Twitter yesterday that the N PAC pattern looks to remain solid for the foreseeable future and if you think the overall large scale pattern will break down, you're probably gonna be wrong. @antmasiello "If you are expecting the North Pacific pattern to flip next month or take on some kind of 2012-like look, you're going to be disappointed. It's not happening." "The Siberian stationary wave system and MQI should prevent a torch scenario. This doesn't mean zero periods of warmth or SE ridge. AAM propagation is one wildcard as well as any intraseasonal Indo pulse. But background state should limit their dominance... Gulp." "One crazier scenario is that the IO forcing-->N Pac circulation lock, creates a looping RMM, weaker Indo response and right back to dual Pac mode forcing. If that occurs, more significant Arctic shots would be on the way next month after current one settles."

HM (I'm paraphrasing here) basically said on Twitter yesterday that the N PAC pattern looks to remain solid for the foreseeable future and if you think the overall large scale pattern will break down, you're probably gonna be wrong. @antmasiello "If you are expecting the North Pacific pattern to flip next month or take on some kind of 2012-like look, you're going to be disappointed. It's not happening." "The Siberian stationary wave system and MQI should prevent a torch scenario. This doesn't mean zero periods of warmth or SE ridge. AAM propagation is one wildcard as well as any intraseasonal Indo pulse. But background state should limit their dominance... Gulp." "One crazier scenario is that the IO forcing-->N Pac circulation lock, creates a looping RMM, weaker Indo response and right back to dual Pac mode forcing. If that occurs, more significant Arctic shots would be on the way next month after current one settles."

Start the thread, apparently. She was smoking in that sparkly see-through dress and stilettos!

How many failed storm threads are we going to start this week?

You keep saying that. but with this pattern, you and T-Pain have a better shot at snow in Tallahassee than we do up here!

I'm trying to figure out why EVERYONE isn't in here. I guess the cold is intriguing. The whole "YOU CAN'T HAVE SNOW WITHOUT COLD" is a moot point. Sure, that's true, but you also CAN'T HAVE SNOW WITH TOO MUCH COLD. Again, this shows the absolute imperativeness of a -NAO for snow here. Period. And if we can't have a -NAO, we at the very least need some ridging in the Atlantic.

Are we allowed to post profanity-ridden messages to accurately display our displeasure, disappointment and despair? I need a drink or 12.

Hello darkness, my old friend. Looks like I'll be dwelling here in my own creation: the SE forum pit of misery for a week! Dilly dilly!

Temp 32 TD 30 Moderate Snow and I've eclipsed an inch!

EURO is more amped/closer to the coast with precip further west and some double digit totals along the central VA/NC line. Wow.

The doctor is in! We're gonna need this tomorrow, I guarantee it.

I'm really sorry if it comes off that way. I try not to poop on anyone's parade and nothing would be cooler than to see a system that gets THIS WHOLE SUBFORUM involved. That's just hard to do. I've tried to keep quiet on this one for the most part. I think I'll have mixing issues too here in the foothills. When it comes down to it, everyone roots for each other but everyone wants THEIR yard covered. I really do hope you Raleigh guys see snow. You're due. You deserve it.

Wxbell has kuchera maps for the euro, are they not the real deal?