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    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

    To get more specific on dendrite's comment about the BOS max temp in 2005...it was 8.7F below the 1936-2016 mean...the coldest on record and a full degree colder than 1967 which had very cold low temps too to help the monthly departure.

    That's what I mean by the "core" of the mess being near BOS. Pulling off a -8F or -9F for max temps is damn near impossible for May given the lowering standard deviations. I wasn't trying to downplay the sucktitude of that month outside of BOS/SNE. It was simply just "less bad" up here.

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, tamarack said:

    That was indeed the worst, but for the month I had measurable rain on 23 days, including 15 of the final 17 (and a trace on the other 2) and 8.20" total.  The 10th/11th reached low 70s but 65 was tops otherwise, and you might not have played in shorts up here on 15-16.  Rain on both days with highs 50 and 51.
    (And 2005 wasn't done messing with us.  June 15-18 had highs of 52,53,55,56 [avg high 71-72] with near constant -RA, and my re-planted corn once again rotted in the ground.)

    We've had a couple more crap days/events this month than down there...4 days with highs in the 40s already here for May. 2005 definitely got off to a better start than we have this month, but the more data I looked at it was obvious that SNE, and especially the coast, had it worse than we did in 05. It's not like I'm claiming it was nice, but the core of the schit was definitely down there.

    I would disagree, given the evidence above.  2005 is my coldest May of 19 here, more than 3F below #2. 
    I've had only two sub-50 highs this month, though only reached 51 on 3 other days.  Max to date is 63.  Of course, I had 4 days in the 70s last month, topped by 75 on the 29th.

    I will admit I didn't look at any Maine data for 05 and don't recall how you guys fared compared to the rest of New England. I should've been more clear. I usually leave Maine out in the context of my posts because you guys are sometimes another world up there. I get a little NH/VT vs SNE centric when making comparisons. Maybe it was more of a longitudinal deal too since the coast took it the worst in SNE. I haven't looked at the past 19 Mays for CON, but I'm sure 2005 is right up there for them as one of the coldest...but the departures were still colder for ORH/BOS than up here. I think the BOS avg max was about 8F below normal...not sure how it was for you.

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    Just now, CoastalWx said:

    Dendrite Destruction. Well anyways, that's entertaining. Would need GFS and Euro to do something similar...euro was pretty tucked west. Tough to really let the NAM dictate the situation, this early ever.

     

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    6 hours ago, OceanStWx said:

    I was still on my semester "abroad" so May 2005 looked something like this:

    2005-05-01    83    68    75.5    -1.1    0    11    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-02    83    72    77.5    0.9    0    13    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-03    85    72    78.5    1.8    0    14    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-04    87    73    80.0    3.2    0    15    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-05    90    75    82.5    5.7    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-06    89    77    83.0    6.1    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-07    88    77    82.5    5.6    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-08    89    75    82.0    5.0    0    17    0.01    0.0    0
    2005-05-09    88    75    81.5    4.4    0    17    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-10    89    74    81.5    4.3    0    17    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-11    90    72    81.0    3.8    0    16    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-12    90    73    81.5    4.2    0    17    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-13    89    77    83.0    5.6    0    18    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-14    89    75    82.0    4.5    0    17    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-15    88    76    82.0    4.4    0    17    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-16    88    77    82.5    4.8    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-17    88    77    82.5    4.7    0    18    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-18    86    75    80.5    2.6    0    16    0.05    0.0    0
    2005-05-19    85    73    79.0    1.0    0    14    0.10    0.0    0
    2005-05-20    90    76    83.0    4.9    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-21    88    74    81.0    2.8    0    16    0.04    0.0    0
    2005-05-22    89    76    82.5    4.2    0    18    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-23    90    76    83.0    4.6    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-24    88    74    81.0    2.5    0    16    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-25    89    74    81.5    2.9    0    17    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-26    89    76    82.5    3.8    0    18    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-27    89    76    82.5    3.7    0    18    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-28    90    75    82.5    3.6    0    18    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-29    89    73    81.0    2.0    0    16    T    0.0    0
    2005-05-30    87    76    81.5    2.4    0    17    0.00    0.0    0
    2005-05-31    85    75    80.0    0.8    0    15    0.07    0.0    0

    Hopefully they ban this troll soon. ;)

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    4 hours ago, CoastalWx said:

    This has not been the disaster 2005 was on the coast. That was on another level. It's cool but we are getting sun which helps.

    We've had a couple more crap days/events this month than down there...4 days with highs in the 40s already here for May. 2005 definitely got off to a better start than we have this month, but the more data I looked at it was obvious that SNE, and especially the coast, had it worse than we did in 05. It's not like I'm claiming it was nice, but the core of the schit was definitely down there.

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    39 minutes ago, tamarack said:

    So far it's been very similar to 2005 - not as cold but that's because 2005 had 4 mornings in the mid 20s; highs and precip were very close to 5/1-9 this year.  It was later that 2005 became a hissing-and-byword for May.  The last 17 days that month featured 5 days with highs in the 40s, 7 more in the 50s, 65 as top temp, avg high 10.6F BN, and over 7.5" rain.

    Yeah...the first half was cool, but a lot of freezes and fair weather. It was that 7-10 day stretch at the end of the month that was putrid. CON finished the month with 5 days in the 70s and 1 in the 80s. So far they have yet to hit 70F this month. Maybe they can squeak a few out the middle of next week.

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    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    I'd argue that this has been worse than May 05 so far up here. I think departures were a little greater in SNE than here though. Through the first 10 days of the month ORH and CON are running about 6F BN for max temps with more dreadful days to come. May 05 was near normal for precip too so it's not like we pulled off some kind of obscene 7-8" month.

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    44 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

    Wow, that is a really impressive system in 1996...that's some serious winter-esque cold thickness packing...in contrast to the ULL dynamic driven cooling we see on the current model guidance:

     

     

    051218.png

    Jesus. That looks like the first week of April or something.

    Model Mehham

    in New England

    Posted

    1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said:

    Well it looks like Mother's Day is ruined....congrats to everyone who wanted this and was rooting it on in the models.

    :lol:

    It's like you stole that quote right out of his mind.

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