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120 MSLP is slightly SE of 6z 1037hp well placed in land of Canooks. Oh the drama oops sorry Tracker. You beat me to it. Yoda, bring it home....

Yes it does.

CMC transfers a bit later than ICON and is more progressive and keeps scooting along. I wish we could toss but I'd still take it.

CMC at 120 is a bit north of ICON, but looking decent. 1036HP nicely placed. Thats the key for the Canook house model to show us the love. GFS doesnt have it.

its just another miller B that misses the phase. Its more likely IMO (based on what we've been seeing so far this winter. More progressive, and no HP anchored to slow the flow. Icon has a 1034mb HP bouncing around to the north which might have aided in the capture it showed.

Looking at upper air panels the MSLP stalls and waits for the ULL to catch up, and captures it. Not sure I buy that w/ the progressive nature of systems this winter, but man I wanna believe. Loop the 500's if you want to see it. Digitally it was nice to look at.

Sweet mother of Mary..... GO LOOK AT WHAT Z GERMANS ARE COOKING UP!!! its literally breathtaking. Watch the loop and dream a little dream..... Perfect transfer well under us, to a STALLED LP off the chesapeake (like 15hr stall). Just a pummelin verbatim.

that'd be this coming Thursdays non event. Just bustin, but we've sure been tricked a few times at 7-8 days out. Hoping we can stop that trend and from what i saw overnight, the reload after the relax looks to be a decent look once again. Still beats weeks and weeks of shut the shades....I think??

I counted about 30 flakes last night before bed. Thats my trace..... Currently gloomy w/ nothing falling here. Does anyone have a new can for me? I kicked this one so many times, that its shot and shredded....just like our storms. What a waste of a "good" period. Just another way for us to be snakebit i guess. Ok, my Debbyin is done....for now. Hoping nooners continue to show some continuity for early next week. Yesterday started that w/ CMC/GFS/ICON and EURO all showing signs of something. Lets not widen goalposts today and that'll be a win IMO.

Nada in Akron. Flurries for a bit before bed. That’s it. onto the next one.....or the one after that..... ............. ugh

yeah north country went from 5" 24 hours ago to 1". W primary going west, I was never giddy bout this one. Hope that in a week from now, its worth the wait.

smart guys must not be buyin what the HRRRRRRR is sellin

Hence my "huggin for 6 hrs" post. I will say that if one parses over major nooners for next Monday's event, they are all seeing something and are rather similar at 144hrs, which raises my bar a bit.

12z Euro for D7 is a board crasher.....in more than one way . I'm huggin for 6 hrs.

FYP

fwiw, the nooner meso's had a nice uptick for LSV/SC Pa and points East. I'd take what they are selling and be happy.

Thanks and nice call from a week ago. I remember the read but forgot your post about the western trough. That's the only sensible reasoning for the cutting to be happening while we've got blocking, but still I just don't quite see how that LP can meander NE right into it instead of getting forced under? Thats the point I'm trying to make. The upcoming non storm for Thursday makes more sense from what should happen w/ the blocking. Obviously timing/spacing probably plays into the forcing as well

CMC's evolution for the 1/31 deal is wonky, but I'd sign right now....Prolonged snow event verbatim. Misses the transfer though and shows the strung out look.

Thx Mag. I totally get what your saying and yes, if we didn't have the NAO, wed be totally out of the game. I'm not complaining, but I'm trying to understand how the above bolded part can happen w/ the blocking we are having? A weakening LP shouldn't just slide north?? FRD had been sharing the thermal profiles in Canada for the last few weeks and it really has been just "average" cold, and not below normal (which is often needed to get it cold enough to force systems under the block). The default for systems to cut is unnerving to me, and in my mind, this is the new default (warm waters off east coast)?. I also think the -PNA is really wrecking us here in the east even w/ the blocking as it still promotes ridging between events which promotes the cutter looks IMO It looks as thought the PNA is heading towards + which may promote better troughing here and let systems come under and not cut. AO/NAO looks all over the place, but mean still neg, so that may show better looks down the road. Just my thoughts.

I want to think its just bad timing, but time and again, we are coldish pre storm, and cold enough post storm, but as we struggle to sustain cold, thats why this is happening. Its just not stable enough to do its work when systems attack it.

What we are now seeing is what i was worried about late last week. We still see systems being able to cut (tonight),or get suppressed (this Thursday's non event). It is really mindboggling to me, but when you look at the 500's it "makes sense"....even though it doesn't. I think if we had a slightly colder thermal profile wrt our "precious" NAO, it would have things bellying under a bit more (thinking todays event), but as the source region is just coldish, it lacks the strength to force systems south, and lets systems force west. Just something I've been pondering for some time now. Does that make sense.

Both GFS and CMC deliver the goods and are starting to narrow goalposts enough to suggest we are inside them. I'd rather be on Euro side vs GFS/CMC sides of best snows, but a compromise (here in LSV) would do us just fine. Hoping posts continue to narrow from here on in as we are inside 5 days. Would feel better if it were 2-3 though.

+1 with both of you and trainer. Only caveat is that we have -NAO and that throws a flag up for the "inevitable" tick north to me. Would probably be easy to find periods of -NAO in the last 20yrs and see what percentage jogged north vs got shunted south.

Yeah I know, but if you look at the "blocking" for next week, there's not much when we need it (LSV anyway) and our thermals are marginally ok (as of 12z's). Not sure i feel confident we are safe down here. Seeing CMC AND EURO come north scares me as were still 5 days out. We needed them to hold for another day or so for me to be able to sleep well wrt this event.

Shortened the abbreviation. -NO