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1 minute ago, Thinksnow18 said:

If you put it in this context late October sun angle is about the same as early March sun angle and while the ground is definitely colder in March than late October. The sun may not have as big of a deterrent as one might think,  especially with rates

Freezing rain and snow is accumulating in Texas-OK-MO right now. If it can do it down there in late October mid day it can definitely do it up here. Though I admit id rather it snow at night in October/November and March/April 

18 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Careful with that term 

haha. I do think were tossing around the lockdown way too liberally. My friends that go to the gym and enjoy downtown night life say this "lockdown" sucks (both are heavily restricted currently). Since I do neither and I travel to the mall, grocery store, heading to a small wedding this weekend I respond with what lockdown? hahaha they get defensive fast. Lockdown and masks have certainly become very political and clear cut lines either your with us or against us mentality. 

Fast start to winter across the midwest. Someone in this subforum (forget the name) keeps putting out long range predictions and they keep nailing them. Convinced he/she is a time traveler haha 

1 hour ago, JoMo said:

It's the "tone" in which people have when it comes to asking others to wear a mask. There's a certain condescending attitude prevalent when telling others to wear a mask. Being lectured and told you will "kill grandma" and that you're "selfish" if you don't wear a mask only makes people who don't wear masks dig in on not wearing a mask. I also think that for some people, it's a macho thing, to show that you aren't afraid of the virus and that you aren't going to allow it to stop you from living your life.

I personally hate wearing a mask, it's hot, uncomfortable, and just downright unpleasant, but I also have several people in my life that would probably die if they were to become infected so I have to be extra careful.  

EDIT: My belief is that if you want to wear a mask, then wear a mask, if you don't want to wear a mask, then don't wear a mask. If you want to get someone to wear a mask, then don't be a-hole about it, try to find out why they don't want to wear a mask and go from there. 

Ive never understood the anti-maskers. I have to wear a mask when working with cement, concrete sand, grinding/cutting various things at work. If I can do that in 90+ heat pretty sure they can put on a mask for a quick 15 minute stop at Wal-mart/grocery store.  

5 hours ago, ikcarsky said:

At the risk of being "inhumane": it's time to accept defeat.  The virus is now endemic, not just in the US but the West as a whole.  It has won, and we've socially exhausted our ability to tolerate further lockdowns.  We had our chance to make lockdowns work and we failed.  Time to embrace that fact and restore overall quality of life by making all public health measures voluntary. If the State still wanted to do something useful, engage in mass distribution of Vitamin D and zinc supplements.  Media messaging and narratives should change to encourage prophylaxis and overall fitness (e.g. outdoor activity, weight loss) should be emphasized.  But ultimately let individuals take charge of their own health and act as they deem fit.  And open up everything.  (But I know this isn't going to happen.)

I said it in another forum, but im down for doing this but you can bet I want this to be across the board type acceptance. If I have to accept defeat then I want all work from home stopped and all CEOs and mid-high management also crowding into workspaces with the rest of us. There will be no mid-high level manager directing me to work from the comforts of his/her suburban house.

4 hours ago, Luke_Mages said:

He’s not wrong. 

There’s a reason that a vaccine for the common cold doesn’t exist. It certainly hasn’t been for a lack of effort. The common cold is also caused by coronavirus. 

Even if a vaccine is created look at the Flu vaccine. Shortages every year. 
A good year is 60% effective. 

The last vaccine rushed to market during a pandemic caused brain damage. 

So do we live with the latest CDC estimate of 0.26%(same as a bad flu season) mortality rate and live our lives or do we stay in this circus that has gone from flattening the curve to complete and utter bullshit?
 

I understand the herd immunity route, however what I don't like is that those pushing it (not saying you) are the from the work from home class. If they all agreed and said okay Ill go back to my office and sit 3 feet away from my coworkers ect.. Instead they want restrictions on bars, sporting events, outside of work restrictions lifted but generally still say they don't need to go back into office. 

I work construction and feel relatively safe but if we went down this route you'd bet id want my boss out there working with us putting "skin in the game" and not just sending blue prints and work orders from the comfort of his house because he can work remote and we can't. 

1 hour ago, mattb65 said:

418,000 Americans died in WW2 over the course of roughly 6 years of combat. 

Over 215,000 Americans have died so far in less than a year of Covid with studies on excess death indicating the deaths from the direct and indirect effects of the virus exceed this number.

 

Meme all you want. It's pretty heartless.

That meme is almost one of the worst out there. We're really going to compare traveling to Europe to fight Nazis that have conquered most of Europe and North Africa to being nervous of Covid? Being lock downed for most of us is challenging but lets not compare going to War to liberate Europe as the same thing as risking my health to go to a shitty mid level manager job in a random 3 story suburban office. 

3 hours ago, (((Will))) said:

It's worth noting that in the first 25 weeks of the Spanish Flu in excess of 25 million people died.

 

Covid isn't even remotely close to that sort of disaster.

While I agree that currently this isn't the Spanish flu and unlikely to reach that magnitude. What I am positive about is when not if another Spanish flu scenario happens there will still be large parts of the population that will say "meh, I need that gym pump so ill roll the dice" or the guy saying masks won't save us ect.. 

Looking forward to the first real "snow" chance later this week into weekend. won't accumulate much down here but I can start to see some scenarios where 1-3" falls in the higher terrain of southern Ontario 

2 hours ago, nwohweather said:

Haha I’d be shocked if any SEC school tested before students returned.

Like I said, I fully expected SEC stadiums to look like that. No one has cared about this pandemic since June when the numbers got really high.

In SC we had a few days about 2,000 new cases because spread is so bad on campuses

Having this debate with a few friends. The Ontario government has restricted in the big cities things like restaurants, gyms, museums, weddings etc.. A lot of the industry has taken to social media saying its not their fault its schools, construction, ect.. 

If Ontario kept them open but said okay the fine for not adhering to the rules will now be a 500K fine and closure for 1 month. Do you think they would be happy since apparently they are all following the rules, or do you think they would balk at it and say no way. 

Generally curious in what peoples opinions are. I personally think the businesses would freak out and balk but that's just me, some friends said the businesses would gladly take that deal. 

I also want to point out that were not communists up here that drive box cars and listen to whatever the government says haha. Ontario citizens are starting to debate and "break" the covid laws like what's happening in the US. (not the crazy right wing stuff, that wouldn't fly here haha) 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/hamilton-police-ancaster-parking-lot-car-show-1.5731583

Just now, Gino27 said:

I just can't... I can't even imagine something like this. I can understand it's possible for stuff like this to happen soon in the Upper Midwest, but I don't recall fantasy storms this early.

This would be about 15 days ahead of last years winter storm in the GTA. Every day after mid October gets more and more realistic to see snow in the sub forum. The last two Octobers ive seen light accumulations in the northern suburbs of Toronto 

3 hours ago, Snowstorms said:

939 cases today. Highest yet. Doug Ford just announced all gyms and indoor dining will be temporarily closed for 28 days effective as early as tomorrow. Casinos and convention centers could also close. Practically stage 2 lockdown again. 44% of recent outbreaks in Toronto have been tied to restaurants and other entertainment venues. We’ve been on a steady increase since late August, so this was inevitable.

The concerning trend is the spillover into rural southern Ontario. Ford looked a bit shaky and emotional today which doesn't make me feel great lol. I hope im wrong but I almost feel like the train is moving too fast to stop now and he knows it. 

CBC has learned that the new daily cases for Ontario will be between 900-1000K in the last 24 hours. The province has scheduled an emergency meeting for 11:30am to see what can be done 

Yesterday was the most ever recorded at 797

7 hours ago, luckyweather said:

 

That’s where the “I’m moving to Canada” is rooted in. This has been eye opening for me, I didn’t know how many self centered and myopic people were all around me, and how pervasive such mindsets are all across the country. As Hoosier said, buckle up as I don’t know where this goes but I don’t think it goes there quietly and peacefully.

 

As a Canadian it does get a bit tiring hearing conservatives say "move to Canada" and liberals say "im moving to Canada" 

I get that its mostly used as a talking point but as Stebo pointed out we actually control our border and immigration and no just showing up to the Canadian border saying you want to live here doesn't work. A guy I work with is from Louisiana and he married a Canadian and still had boatloads of paper work to do and money spent to accomplish it. 

Also Ottawa doesn't run the entire country. British Columbia and Alberta are about as politically similar as Alabama and California. We literally have 1 province Quebec who had a referendum to leave Canada in the mid 1990s. If Ottawa ruled with an iron first as the guy from SC makes it sound like, I doubt Quebec would be given that choice. 

End Rant haha 

3 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Looks like another above normal month incoming?

I like that. The averages are still in the 50s for most of the region during this time period so an extended period of 60s and hopefully sunny weather would be nice. I enjoy winter but lets get a few weeks of sun and 60s/30s and then end of October switch to 30s and wet snow and lake effect/snow chances. 

8 hours ago, BuffaloWeather said:

There are quite a few services that are still not open due to covid here. Sporting events, movie theatres, and the biggest one that has many connective industries are concerts. Not to mention foreclosure law firms and many courts due to the suspension of evictions. My wifes entire law firm with 200 employees in 5 states is about to shut down. She was there for 8 years and had to find another job. I still say open everything up, wear a mask, and social distance whereever possible. If everyone in this country used common sense, we would have this virus under control rather quickly. And it all starts at the top. Hopefully trump getting covid helps everyone realize the importance of following the science. 

He was in such denial of covid and now hes sick. The scientists are now telling us what is coming due to climate change and no one is listening. The global effects of climate change are going to make covid look like a joke. 

I think sometimes that we believe too much in individuals using common sense. I live in the GTA which is experiencing a situation going out of control, but currently working in rural Ontario. This past week I was at dinner and this guy with his elderly father and family started saying he's not wearing a mask and had a temper tantrum because they live in a non hot spot so why follow city rules. That type of attitude is why we won't be able to get a handle on this. Right beside his temper tantrum was a table of 6 guys from Toronto (hot spot) so who cares that he's in a non hot spot.

2 hours ago, RogueWaves said:

Iiuc we may even be looking at a strong Nina. Tradition says that'd be worse for us. But lately everything has bucked tradition. Counting on this to do the same. I do feel that if winter comes in fast and furious it will leave the same way. By that I mean early.

Thats my favourite type of winter. Early season snow and cold and then spring starts fast mid march 

On 9/29/2020 at 10:59 AM, on_wx said:

Montreal and Quebec City are on a form of lockdown for the next 28 days. I don't think a lot of us are expecting another lockdown for various economic reasons, but its surprising to see parts of Quebec are going ahead with it.

The economic reasons for not doing a shutdown are interesting and understandable. However, staying open doesn't mean businesses won't struggle which I think gets lost in the messaging.

The seasonal company I work at just had to shut down an entire division for 5 days because of covid. We were operating with covid rules in place but now we've cracked open the emergency plans. This will slow down productivity even more and obviously increases costs but if we didn't have any measures in place the entire company could have been at risk of being shut down for days instead of just one division. 

All summer Ontario and most of Canada looked across the border with confusion. Now the rest of Canada is also looking at Ontario with confusion as we've shown no appetite to slow down the virus. Quebec was with us for the most part, but as someone mentioned earlier they've peeled away and have done a limited lock down now of the two biggest cities in the province, leaving Ontario to continue down this road alone. 

25 minutes ago, SouthBuffaloSteve said:

BUF metro is getting rocked tonight!  
 

First rain delay for the Jays (while playing at home) in nearly 20 years haha 

18 hours ago, Brian D said:

Met Fall is just around the corner. If you have any forecasts or thoughts concerning the upcoming season, go for it.

I believe we start it off with cooler weather for the first half of the Sept with more normal conditions in the second half. My model suggests some very cold air coming in a little early with widespread frost and freeze conditions typical of later Sept in the north.

Oct looks to be quite a mixed bag of weather on a week to week basis into early Nov. Oct could be very interesting and a bit wild, but it is Oct, and wild is no stranger during this month as the seasons clash like they do in Spring. Be ready!! Then by mid - Nov, I'm expecting some very cold weather for our region with the LES machine cranking up strong. Then comes the heavy snows of early Dec, especially my way, but that's another season discussion.

The weather this Fall will probably mirror the crazy climate of little critters and elections. In the words of the Fonz "NUTSO"!! LOL

Be blessed all in these crazy times!

Just realized how far north in Minnesota you are. In 2016 and 2017 I was up in Fort Frances and spent lots of time in International Falls. You guys have a stronger Canadian accent then us in Toronto haha. Very friendly people and I couldnt believe the amount of dual citizens on both sides of the border. The towns almost seemed like one big town (radio did news for both towns and weather in F and C, parties/bars were attended by both sides) 

Your weather is certainly one of the harshest outside the mountain ranges in the US.

15 hours ago, Stebo said:

I am very skeptical they can pull it off, but they are one of the few places that are still trending in the right direction. They have to have a hair trigger though if the numbers go up considering how many people live in and around NYC.

Ontario is going ahead with full in class for grades 1-8 and high school is 50% of the week in class. We have a population of 14.5M and have now had 6 consecutive days below 100 new cases in the entire province.  The entire province has seemed to accept the masks and I just came out of the beer store and people had no problem with waiting 10 minutes outside because it was 2 people in the store at a time. I think it all came down to leadership to set the example and our conservative premier (governor equivalent) stressed since early march the severity of this and only had a few hiccups along the way. 

3 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said:

central ontario is practically the arctic 

haha sorry not the geographical central part of ontario. Barrie-North Bay-Algonquin is central ontario. 

Timmins though where I worked last August and saw multiple nights with frost and temperatures in the 30s is actually in the arctic watershed haha 

3 hours ago, weatherbo said:

Notice some color starting to pop up

Was up in central Ontario this weekend and noticed a few as well. Not unusual for August but a nice sign to see. Multiple nights coming up in that area of Ontario with lows in the 40s. 

On 7/21/2020 at 7:46 AM, Torchageddon said:

What would happen if he had pumped his gas first and then went in to pay?  This hypothetical also assumes no CC terminal attached outside to each pump.

Ive actually wondered this myself haha. Yesterday I noticed signs saying you have to pre pay outside for gas if you dont have a mask. 10 people have been ticketed in Brampton already for not wearing the masks. Just like the tickets for the parks earlier in the year, my guess is enough tickets get handed out and people will listen. 

44 minutes ago, Sidewinder said:

 

Never in my life would I have thought that someday people could be made to believe that breathing their own CO2 on an extended basis would be considered healthy and safe. Just incredible. 

lol what? Is this a serious post or sarcasm, I work construction for a living and wait until I tell you about mask wearing when mixing cement/sanding. I guess you might be one of the old vets I stumble upon who laugh at people working in concrete dust with masks on. To them wearing a mask when working in construction isnt proven to help and no one will convince them otherwise. Aside from the fit tests the company makes them get but then right away they take the mask off