I live 45 mins north of NYC. 4 yrs ago, I used to have a camp in Old Forge, but it got crowded and dangerous, so I moved to Perkinsille, VT. Figured I could or trailer or ride from there. No snow and my son’s schedule limiting everything, we bailed after 1 season. I’ve had sleds for 20 yrs, not including when I was a kid. I am not missing it at all.