Layman

Roman:"You know what the gourmet here wanted? Hot dogs! You know what they're made of, Chet? Huh? Lips and a**holes!" https://www.quotes.net/mquote/115045

Forecast 97, looks like 87 will do it: The wife and I were out earlier today and she points out some pumpkin spice something or other saying "Already?!" Get it early, get it often. Not sure it ever goes away!

It's those tick bites. Clearly you have Sublyme disease. I'll see myself out....

Both great examples of how the current internet/Twitter/X/Youtube hype focuses on the worst case scenarios and is ultimately a detriment to any real cause. Who gives a crap about CC when a Carrington event or super caldera eruption is in the cards? Certainly not Joe Sixpack who's toiling away at some menial job to keep the lights on and maybe bring the family to McDonald's on the weekend.

You didn't happen to teach Biology at Manchester Central HS in about 1990 or so did you? I had a teacher there that was super passionate about all of this and would occasionally use us students as a captive audience to vent to. Sounded just like this! I recall this one time when he was on a tear, face getting more and more red as he went on, none of us saying anything and then that apparently pissed him off too so he lays into us with "Are you fkn listening to me!!!?!?!?" We're all kind of like "Yeah, we really don't have a choice". There was this one skinhead kid in class though that piped up and said "Calm down dude! You're losing it!" Good times. People definitely get passionate about topics they hold dear. Fuck Central HS.

I saw this posted online and it was presented as real but I didn't verify it. I don't doubt it however and I believe this is along the lines of what @vortex95 is talking about with regard to hype. Consider if this bar chart went all the way to zero and those gaps between numbers remained the same - it would challenge the Burj Khalifa!

I saw this and thought it might resonate

There's always a compromise...

Looks like it’s getting warm back home. But it’s beautiful up here 78 with a nice breeze.

Lots of interesting and nuanced things to consider for sure. I appreciate the perspective on this.

I'll test that out on the car thermometer tomorrow as the wife and I head up to @alex's neck of the woods for a couple days while the kids roast on the coast.

Sorry to hear and understand your frustration. Curious to hear what the other gentleman has to say for his 10 year old system. My interest is solely in the economics of the thing as the math seemed to work for some but not others.

TL;DR - You didn't break even?

I've been curious about this for some time and had trouble discerning where a break-even is after initial purchase. I know there were subsidies involved in a lot of installations that helped but I've also heard people mention panels degrade over time and/or there are maintenance costs to factor in (panel replacement, batteries, etc). I imagine you've hit a break-even at some point during this stretch. Do you happen to know when it was and how far ahead you are?

I'm concerned the supercharged heat dome will be fueled by the Super El Nino and surge into the Polar Vortex.