Winterweatherlover
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Right now I’d probably focus on qpf and dewpoints. The models may not pick up on dynamic cooling until the last moment
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This could be a case where cpk gets less than 1 while everywhere on all sides of it get more but hopefully not.
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The RGEM is pretty ugly but it’s also kind of dry. Wetter=snowier, drier=rain or white rain in this setup.
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You don’t need it but it obviously helps a lot. There aren’t too many storms we actually get that are powerful enough to generate their own cold air.
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The RGEM being warm for Tomorrow nights storm is definitely a concern but it’s also drier and this will be very dynamically dependent near the coast so it will make sense wetter=snowier, drier=rainier.
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The models continue to seem to show higher liquid in the NYC/central NJ/western LI region. If that trend holds I’d expect snowfall totals to bump up as we get closer to event.
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That’s very true but also in this case the storm will be drying out the further east you are. The cutoff is less about temps and more about less moisture due to the secondary tracking SE.
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If it’s truly over an inch of qpf it’s hard to see cpk not getting an inch given that would imply at least some heavier rates.
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Somewhat underdone imo but I get why they’d be conservative but I’m thinking closer to an inch at CPK and 1-3 just north of the city. 2-5 NW NJ/Orange county.
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It’s going to be hard for CPK to not avoid futility. Lots of snow threats. I honestly still think Sat probably avoids the record if it’s measured before 7:00 am.,
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For the city yea to the above. Seems the northern suburbs could do better with both storms.
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Totally agree but still a nice bump. Also if snow is heavy and better dynamics involved it could improve ratios I think.
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Big qpf jump on the 0Z global models, this could potentially be a game changer. https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2023030900&fh=72&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=qpf_acc-imp&m=gdps https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=qpf_acc-imp&rh=2023030900&fh=72&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
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0Z CMC is also wetter.
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Interesting to see if 18z euro and 0Z gfs are picking up on a wetter trend that the mesos wouldn’t catch yet. Curious to see what cmc shows.
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0Z Gfs looks pretty good.
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Looks like plain rain until 6z Sat.
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0Z RGEM is warmer.
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Seems more qpf than other models. If that much qpf truly falls the same places that did well on 2/28 could do well again.
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The only advantage this time is we don't have to worry about mid level warming but going to be hard to get down to freezing with light-moderate precip,
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Pretty noticeable north shift on the GFS 12Z https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2023030812&fh=120&dpdt=&mc=&r=conus&p=prateptype_cat-imp&m=gfs 18Z https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2023030818&fh=114&dpdt=&mc=&r=conus&p=prateptype_cat-imp&m=gfs
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I don't think that worked out too well for the immediate coast. That storm also had better dynamics for our area than this one. The best rates here should be PA/Maybe Western NJ.
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Personally I'd trust kuchera maps more than 10:1 in this setup given the marginal airmass and lack of heavy precip.
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If the Euro depiction is accurate (and big if) if it will snow and snow a lot NYC on north imo.
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How can anyone not see potential when Euro has a 972 at the BM for storm 2. Details to be sorted out. oh wait sorry wrong thread but I assumed we were taking storm 2, storm 1 seems like a pretty minor event.
