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You like records, so you should be excited, lol.

I mean the NWS keeps everything conservative snow forecasts, summer highs, winter lows, severe weather, etc. They always adjust up until the day and still are sometimes too conservative even when they've been proven wrong.

I meant the dramatics of assuming that every winter will be exactly like this one from now on.

What?!? I don't think severe weather is a new phenomenon in Pittsburgh, I think our NWS is just super conservative in their forecasts.

Well, if LA County can get 6 feet of snow in a week, yeah, I believe we'll have another 60" season easy. Why is everyone so dramatic all of a sudden, lol? Also, I am not looking for a stormy Spring or Summer. I'm hoping for dry and warm to hot, but we'll see. I think it'll be rainy and cool through both seasons, though.

Let's have a few more than one before jumping off a bridge. One data point is not a trend. Look at what they're getting out West, it is the opposite of us, does that mean their winters are like that now forever?

This has been all winter, that's just the pattern and the way the models are handling it. Hopefully next season is better.

Yes, hilarious, because you can't control this, so freaking out over it won't fix anything, plus it's March, so put it to bed, lol. You conveniently forget December 2020 for snow, but of course you'll probably point out that's it was an anomaly, and ignore that this season may be just that, an anomaly.

Agree. This is a shitty winter, there's really nothing else to it. It's pretty much March at this point, time to fully accept defeat and hope for a better season next year, but hand wringing and freak outs at this point are almost comical.

Damn, you're hard to please. The headline I heard said century's old records being broken. Whether it's monthly, all time, or daily doesn't mean it isn't cold. I guess it was a piddly -5 on December 23rd here. Not cold enough? What's a good winter going to have to be now -25 air temperature here. Those are high standards. I mean a daily record is a record. It's like saying tying the 70 record Thursday was a piddly record, because it didn't break the 78 monthly record. It's a record and you put a lot of stock in that record last week.

Well sure, but we can't discredit the record cold in December, because it was potent. Plus, it was the coldest Christmas weekend in decades.

Yep, century's old records being broken out there as well, just the cold records. We'll get ours again. Although, let's not forget the record cold in December, even if it was only one day it was something not seen in over 30 years.

I'm glad it was drier at least. Hate too much rain, hopefully that continues through the summer at least.

I guess memories are definitely different, but I don't think it's that uncommon.

I disagree, a 60 degree day in February, or January, or December has never felt odd to me. It has literally happened almost every year. There's a reason every winter month has a mean max of over 60, because that's not unusual. It's honestly really annoying when the news casters always act like they can't believe it's 60 degrees in winter. It happens every year.

Clearly a western winter.

Never denied climate change, but to act as if these things we are seeing this year have never occurred is denying reality.

That's simply semantics.

Who cares? Though it does look like 1906 did.

Ok, you win. Literally the worst winter ever, none have ever compared to just truly unheard of this one is. We've never seen tons of cutters and 60 and 70 degree days in winter. Might as well just change the City name to Orlando or something.

You really like to nitpick every stat. You dig up obscure ones, but ignore equally relevant ones I'm bringing up. Look, I'm sorry this winter sucks, I know it does, I hate it to, but this is not an unprecedented winter and it is not a part of any kind of pattern at this point. It's a clunker, best to accept and move on to the next.

Probably still time. It's only 3:00pm.

I mean, yeah probably, but there are also 6 Februarys from 1875 to 1899 that featured 70s for highs (1883 hit 76). Obviously, not as reliable, taken downtown, blah, blah, blah, I know, there definitely wasn't as large an urban heat island back then either. Point is there were warm and snowless winters over 100 years ago too. One year isn't a pattern. Meanwhile, in these last 25 years we've hit 70 in February...the same, 6 times, with a three year run from 1999-2001.

Those were a long time ago, so weird we had bad winters back them too, hmmm?

Agree. Winter isn't welcome if it appears in March. Ready to move on.