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Official Spring is tomorrow. Coming in with seasonally appropriate weather. Here's the thread.

At least looks seasonable to a little above average for the first week of Spring.

Really a nice day out there.

But were those accurate totals since they were the early 1900s?

Some should be happy this morning.

Yeah, my thoughts on all of it exactly. Knew March would be crappy, just because that's exactly what always happens. Just hope it's not lingering too deep into April and May.

While this has been a horrible winter. It hasn't really bothered me like it would have in the past. Not sure, guess I'm just not as concerned with these kinds of things. Of course I want tons of snow and cold, but realizing there's nothing I can do and focusing on what I can control over the last year or so has given me a new perspective I guess. It just isn't going to ruin my mood, I have enough other things that can do that, lol.

Well it's also moot because we have no records for the airport area from the time of the record, so we can't ever say that this year is the worst ever definitively. We just have to accept that it will not go down as the worst ever. Why is that such a sticking point?

I'll still push back, I really believe I received at least 10" this year. I can remember a few snows that were at least 2" over the season.

These maps are always different than official obs. Those seasonal analyses we see every spring are always perplexing. I'm not buying their totals verbatim. I definitely saw more than 5" this year. There really is no doubt about that, sorry to disappoint you.

I'm over it by March. This year is whatever, I've moved on, so it is what it is. I will not like though if we have an extended wet, cold Spring because the pattern flipped at the worse time. Hopefully, just a blip and a return to nicer weather. We can try again next winter.

It's truly laughable that as soon as March hits, so comes winter. So bizarre. But maybe the cliff jumpers will hold off a little longer, lol.

Beautiful day today.

Maybe, but it definitely feels like we had more than that. Hard to say, though. November had a good three, December was pretty close to what the airport reported. There was a surprise one to two though when the airport didn't report that much sometime in January. I'd saw where I am in the City definitely surpassed that 8.8" and probably 10" ot 12".

That record could still be legit, who's to say Moon would have double the actual snow that year. They could have had less than the official. So, since we can't actually say what they had, you do have to take that as the record. Now the Ike record, lol, you don't have to take that since there are other (plentiful) it seems observations.

I think you’re the only one still worried about getting snow this season, lol.

What the Hell is all this Ike stuff all of the sudden, lol. Where did it come from?

Of course, lol. However, long range has been complete shit this season, so we’ll see.

Lol, where was that said. I said there were no heat waves, which is true and the total 90 degree days were below average which is true. A one off 94 degree day isn’t impressive.

Everything is warmer there is no cooler anymore. At least that’s what’s been established here.

Ok, I guess snow was nice while it lasted. Guess we need to all move the LA to see it.

That's all interesting but can't we apply the same "logic" to summer weather that's been applied by many here for winter? The last two summers featured no actual heat waves, so we can say summers aren't reliably summery anymore in Pittsburgh. In fact in the last 7 summers, only 2 had above normal 90 degrees. That directly contradicts that charts you have. See where that sounds stupid? Two down years don't mean anything in the grand scheme. One winter doesn't tell us anything in the grand scheme.

So, you conveniently left out months that contradicted the point you want to make. And haven't we been in a La Nina the past three years?

Good thing I raked them as well, lol. Also, February 2015 was 13.1 below normal. No month was that positive above normal.

Last Jan-Feb averaged -2.5 colder than normal, with January being over 5 degrees below normal. Jan-Feb 2021 averaged more than 1 degree below average, with February almost 4 below normal. Jan-Feb 2019 averaged less than 1 degree above normal. January -1.3 below average. Jan-Feb 2016 was average. Jan-Feb 2015 was about 8 degrees below normal, with February over 13 below normal and was the fourth coldest month of all time. Jan-Feb 2014 was about 6-7 degrees below average, with both months around 6 degrees below normal. Jan-Feb 2013 was perfectly average. Looks like four below average, two average and 4 above average. Interesting. So, out of the last ten Jan-Feb periods 7 of them topped out at no more than 1 degree above normal for the period. Please stop with the hysterics on climate change. Is it changing? Probably. Is it changing so fast that excellent winters we've had literally within the last decade will no longer exist? No.