NorthHillsWx

^^^ this

One thing to note- when precip arrives in the triangle it’s 24-25 degrees. Rarely and I do mean rarely do we get above freezing with precip falling and temps that low unless the SLP is directly over or west of us. I think if that setup occurred we’d struggle to get above freezing

Well well well, the Gfs, Euro and their ensembles both trended positively in their last runs. Maybe the bleeding has stopped

Watch on the ICON as the upper low over the GL slingshots the storm inland and up the coast. In my opinion, that’s the main culprit at play causing this to tend poorly. As modeled that upper low is quite strong on the ICON. It literally pulls the system into its broad circulation

Rule 1) Don’t trust long range NAM

Seeing improvement in the Euro op was great but seeing a positive trend in EPS is better. If anything, the NW trend abated. Hopefully the happy hour will reel us back in

Verbatim the Euro is a MAJOR winter storm for most on this sub forum including the triangle even though some areas go to plain rain. This won’t be a pure snow event for very many people but this could be a serious winter storm and that shouldn’t be understated. Euro kept the BL temps below freezing and had slightly cooler mid levels for piedmont areas than 6Z and 0Z. I think the WAA was slightly muted with a slightly less amped system. HP and overall setup didn’t change much

12z Euro is first run in a while to trend slightly weaker/further east. Maybe the NW trend has abated and we’ll settle into something between what we had the other day and this morning

The problem is this wasn’t one run, this was what looked like a perfect setup for days. It’s completely changed in 48 hours. Not just type of storm (Miller A to Miller B ) or track (Carolina’s, to gulf coast, to Tennessee valley to split low) or timing (Saturday to now Sunday into Monday) or precip (light strung out solutions to amped wet solutions) or low pressure track due east to now cutting inland up the east coast. Essentially these are HUGE changes in 48 hours. Pattern recognition and storm fruition are two totally different beasts but outside 4 days I don’t think a single model had a solution even remotely close to what we’re seeing now. This may rain all the way to NYC and Boston whereas 2 days ago we weren’t even talking precip there way and it had snow in orangeburg. I get model runs change but these have been drastic

I’d take some of those strung out all-snow 2-4” from the mountains to the coast solutions from a couple days ago about now

Raleigh folks- sorry. The Miller B solution is not going to work well for us. Looking like it’ll be hard to keep snow for anyone outside the mountains/foothills

Always

This ^^^. Will try to keep pessimism at a minimum knowing someone in our sub forum is going to have a big storm but I do not like the trends for the Raleigh area proper

I’m going to go ahead and reserve a spot in here for Sunday afternoon while I watch my 1-2” of slush melt away in the driving rain and 34 degrees while Durham gets a blizzard

Trend seems up be a more amped low and with that more precip type issues. Such is life in the south. I really like everywhere along the 85 corridor and would feel very comfortable at this point. It digs far enough south to put even Atlanta in a fantastic spot. Issue is definitely when it begins to make the northward push and how Far East it gets before then. Seeing an extremely amped sub 995 low crossing SE NC is not going to be good for Raleigh proper to stay all snow. Those are minute details with huge implications at this point. A major storm seems likely in the south and we have days of model runs to sort those details out. The trend certainly seems though that there is more likely to be a piedmont-east screw zone than we were thinking at this time yesterday

Have a car/mulch topper. Win.

Actually looks like a decent snow band now. Jealous I’m missing the flakes from Morehead

Snowing in Raleigh on my Ring

Eye of the storm

If it snows and sticks to my mulch enough so that I can see it on the ring cam I’ll call it a win

Yep- snow doesn’t accumulate well in mud puddles. I do like the trend to end as all snow on most models. Think a dusting to an inch is in play for most of the triangle. Hey- that could bust my prediction of no measurable snowfall this season!

Agreed- pretty much everything has continued to show a period of snow.

Given the dynamics involved with this system, I don’t think ground temps matter as much as they would for a lighter event. Snowfall coming down at 2” an hour will stick to a frying pan right off the cook top… It obviously will melt your accumulation somewhat so it won’t be maximized but you can get heavy totals with warm ground when the rates are what are being suggested. That being said- the NW trend took the vast majority of this board away from the party. The 1-4” of backend snowfall shown on models for much of NC is not going to be enough to overcome the warm ground, such as will happen in VA. A storm track inland over southern NC is not a conducive storm track for accumulating snow in these parts. Sure there will probably be some backend flakes but this is a Virginia storm for sure

Folks in DC would implode

This has gone from token flakes to perhaps a major foot+ storm but unfortunately looks like the NW trend has commenced leaving most of us in the sanitarium per usual