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Euro is pretty cold too for 2/18. At the moment that one looks a bit similar to Tuesday except the PV which was originally supposed to settle in ahead of Tuesday, actually settles in after Tuesday and we have an arctic antecedent airmass which would be better for starting as snow.
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Yeah it’s definitely been running colder aloft along with the Ukie. Suggests a lot of sleet N of pike...esp near MA/NH border. Prob starts as a burst of snow even. My gut tells me to go with the warmer models aloft though.
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Secondary may tickle east on some of these runs like the RGEM. Not sure I’m totally buying a low over scooters head. Something like NAM makes more sense.
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Yeah and that matches with my old radial anecdotes....I always noticed around a quarter inch radial is when you’d start seeing the scattered power outages and then at around 1/3 or 3/8ths is when it would start to seem to “ramp up”.
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Yeah the new criteria using flat ice makes the warnings a lot easier to verify...and makes the warning a lot less menacing than it used to be. It’s still a pretty good icing event, but the old ice storm warning was like “whoa, this is pretty serious”.
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Yeah, I was mentioning this earlier (I think yesterday) about the QPF aspect. I’d normally want to see at least 2” of qpf for major ice storm concerns unless it’s like 1.25-1.50 protracted out over like 36-48 hours from mostly light intensity stuff.
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Yes the trend is def warmer in the midlevels.
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Toss those sfc temps.
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VDay 1962 was more impressive imho
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Surface. It can torch aloft as long the flow is Southwest up there.
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Pretty hard to warm the interior when it’s not mostly in-situ CAD. This is pretty classic pressure pattern to keep them well below freezing.
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I think there’s multiple more chances in February. I mentioned earlier that 2/22 is starting to gain some traction. I agree with Scott that March looks warm and it makes sense but that could change too. Guidance has been pretty bad in the extended range. Lot of LR forecasters got humbled this year.
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This isn’t a pure in-situ CAD event like we often see with a retreating high into Nova Scotia. It’s going to be really hard to dislodge cold in the interior. The only way will be if the primary trends west and stronger and you get a secondary trying track over like SE CT to RI to SE MA.
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The guidance is going to verify too warm if they have that mesolow poking northeast into CC bay like the rgem does. If it’s a little less defined like the NAM then it’s prob going to transition to 33F rain further inland and ORH elevations will be the main area in SNE. Below are the rgem and NAM...you can clearly see the rgem points more NE while the NAM is more ENE. Euro was more northeast too which would end up colder. RGEM/Euro look means take ‘em down at the sfc
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Euro looked pretty thumpy late week. Hopefully we trend that a little more. Also a potential threat 2/22...EPS has that. Looked Miller B-ish
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This could be pretty icy over the interior. Gotta watch for the mesolow too. Some guidance is trying to poke a mesolow up to the northeast. Not all guidance (NAM doesn’t really have it but rgem and to lesser extent euro)....but if we pop that mesolow up into CC bay and northeastward, then it’s goodnight for warming above freezing at the sfc at least to like 128 and maybe even a little closer to coast.
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Yeah maybe as high as 0.4-0.5 if it’s efficient. But this isn’t a major ice storm as modeled right now. Moves too fast and not enough QPF. Could be a decent nuisance type ice situation though. Around 3/8th radial starts getting annoying with some power outages.
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I saw a couple threats that run. They just went wide right and one kind of redeveloped overhead. It wasn’t a particularly torchy run.
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If you have excellent insulation under your roof then you can definitely have gutters up there. Sounds like your house is well insulated if you rarely get any snow melt on the roof. But an old house like mine that we haven’t re-insulated yet, it would never survive a winter up north with gutters....those gutters would be trashed after a winter or two.
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He thinks skepticism of warning ice amounts is the same thing as saying no ice will happen. It will be a typical ice event if it happens...prob like a tenth to quarter inch...nuisance. A small stripe may see something more significant. Hard to say where yet, but my best WAG would be south of Kevin.
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Toss the sfc temps on these tracks over ACK
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Very likely sleet makes it north of the pike. The question is how much snow happens before that. 18z NAM was actually a furnace...lot of cold rain down there with ZR in interior MA. Tossing it though unless euro agrees.
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Selling big ice for that large an area. Prob a narrow band of decent ice and my guess would be closer to the south coast. A bunch of that is sleet in reality.
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Agreed. There would def be a thin band of decent ZR, but based on 850 and 700 temps, hard to get that much ZR as far north as it shows. I’d bet on a lot of sleet instead. But we’re probably not at the final solution either.
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It also depends on the max warm layer temp. You usually want at least 3-4C for the warm layer for ZR. But even if that happens and the cold layer is more than -6C and like 500m deep, then it will be pellets anyway.
