North and West

Ding! We all want the same thing here, I believe. We want a healthy ecosystem and environment *and* people living in a modern society. For example, Natural gas is cleaner than the oil and coal and wood that used to heat our homes, though still not perfect. It will bridge us to an even cleaner source that is being worked on now, even though we don’t realize it. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I grew up next to and still live above MMU. One of my all time favorite weather memories. It’s when my dad told me this was finally a big storm like he remembered after I prayed for snow throughout the late 80s and up until 1994. .

I prefer to be positive about this; the Industrial Revolution benefited all of us. We can’t deny it, and we wouldn’t want to go back to living in log cabins and huts. Fossil fuels catapulted us forward. However, the Industrial Revolution has had negative side effects. I like what you said and what I like too is that it’s just math. It’s just numbers and they tell the story. I think we’re moving forward on a cleaner usage of energy, and we’re still ironing it out. Less CO2, great; how do we have battery usage and rare earth mining and powering batteries to be better moving forward? I think we will still see breakthroughs. .

You know, why not? Twitter is already a dumpster fire of people who like pontificate, so why not add to the pyre. .

Reading these boards might be doing it to them as well. .

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I wonder if the recent decline is due to opioids, Covid, or reading the updated GFS. .

…which isn’t a bad thing. .

I think the air has gotten far cleaner (in the U.S. at least) in the past 50 years. .

I think people like to either ignore reality (if you add more of certain ingredients into the recipe, the taste will change, often not for the better; it’s just math) or like to talk down to others (how can you be so stupid?) which then makes other people dig in their heels. Imagine talking to your wife or girlfriend like that; they’re not going to stop and say, you know what, you’re right. I’m an idiot and you know best. I think it’s best to just show cause and effect, and how someone who may not agree with you is being ill-effected by the impacts of increased greenhouse gases. My two [emoji383] .

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Two Februaries ago, we had 48” in MMU. It just didn’t stop and didn’t want to not snow. Now, we have zero and it doesn’t want to snow. Averages out to 24”. .

Filler news. .

I love the batshit insane hype. .

Did a poster from here write this headline? https://www.nj.com/weather/2023/01/nj-weather-chances-of-snow-on-horizon-winter-isnt-canceled-forecasters-say.html .

LOCK IT IN .

You know this winter is boring as all hell when we’re fighting over a storm from ten years ago. .

Now I’m thinking you’re a couple with the way you playfully and lovingly bicker. .

Because of age, IMO. .

Right - people generally don’t do things for altruistic reasons. They do them for selfish reasons. We all do; it’s just biology. If you pay me to not chop down trees or heat my home with natural gas, I’m going to take you up on that. It’s how we operate. If a girl’s educational opportunities mean fewer children but more money, she’s likely going to take more money. .

I think the birth rate comes down anyway with economic opportunity and incentive - you see that already in advanced economies. .

Eh, I disagree with you. Ehrlich was proven wrong 50+ years ago, and even though he pushes for depopulation, he’s conveniently still kicking at 90. More land and oceans are protected now than ever before, and we use less farmland more efficiently than in years past, making more food than ever before, with fewer people farming it, allowing nature to reclaim it. We’re also moving towards cleaner and more efficient energies. It doesn’t happen overnight, but it’s in progress. I just don’t care for the doom and gloom. It feeds into our base survival instinct. It’s been going on since time immemorial in different shades (today’s eco doom is just tent revivals from 160 years ago); same church, different pew. .

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Probably April 3 or something incredibly inconvenient. .

The usual yardwork in shorts on January 4th .