Waiting on snow

Time will tell. I feel good about seeing something. Just not sure on amounts yet. GSP still says rain along and south of 85 in their latest discussion but did state small changes could lead to a bigger storm. 6Z has those changes so we'll see where it trends.

I don't know about that to be honest. These 10:1 maps can't be trusted. Maybe 1-2 inches if the stars align. But that's just my opinion.

I agree. Just because its the south doesn't mean you shouldn't expect some snow. When your average is 4-6 inches a year and you can't even get a damn inch in 2 years thats ridiculous and not normal. Well let me rephrase that, I guess its the new normal because it happens too often now. Screw global warming and anyone who denies it.

Nice rant man! I couldn't have done better myself!

You can thank Chris Justus for that as always.

They actually have hope even in a bad pattern. It's hopeless here!

Exactly. I haven't had snow on the ground since 2018. Its almost 2021! That's ridiculous. And the 1st half of January looks like shit. And after that La Nina doesn't exactly scream a backloaded winter.

I seriously doubt Raleigh zeros out. Raleigh always lucks out. Now here is different. I zeroed out last year and fully expect it again this year.

Screw winter.

Here we go again. Prime climo and this thread is the place to be. Does anyone actually expect cold in the se anymore?

Head on over to the Mid Atlantic forum and read that PSU guys research. He states what I've seen coming for 2 weeks now. When the Pacific pattern goes this bad as it is now it never recovers. In all his analogs it never recovered. Some winters were better than others because the Atlantic saved them. Don't fall for the false -NAO on the GFS. No Atlantic is saving us this year. This winter is a dud. I can realistically say that even though its only December. We're getting blanked! It's crazy for the mid Atlantic to give up because they have March. Screw March snows down here. They're rare regardless of what Panovich says. They make up a high percentage of snowfall because they can be heavy when they occur. They don't occur that often outside the mountains. This ain't 1960 anymore.

When there hasn't been a post in almost 2 days in the main thread going into peak climo you know it's bad. Winter 19-20 will go down as one to forget.

Funny how that works huh? Just goes to show we can screw up any pattern down here. It's amazing it actually finds a way to snow here.

Time to get this b***h jumping again since the fantasy storms are showing up!

I would have though the same about CAE. Not the case though. After they received 16 inches in Feb 73 they didn't get anymore until they received 5.5 inches 6 years later in Feb 79. Then they got 3.5 Jan 2003 and didn't get anymore until 8.9 in Feb 2010. 7 years later!!! And there are multiple 4 and 5 year streaks back to 1960. Their snowfall pattern is roughly the same. Nobody can argue that the upstate has really fallen off since 93 or so though!

I know! I give the winter a C-. My rant was focused mostly on the people who complain about not getting snow but average 20 inches per year! They don't know how good they have it! And yes the hype this winter had expectations high. I was hoping for a double digit year. Would be the 1st since 93. And double digit years used to occur every three years or so up until then. That was the good ole days!

Good riddance to this shit box winter. Tired of seeing the Mid Atlantic weenies cry all winter how bad their winters are. They always get snow its just a matter of time. They keep getting storm after storm now while we fail miserably. Beyond done with it

Yeah my forecast for 19-20 is above average temps and below average snow. Just forecast that and you're right 90% of the time. This is the easiest part of the country to forecast winter.

Watching what is most likely final threat of the season go down the ****ing toilet! The way this joke of a winter has been nobody should have expected any different.

It is depressing rare snowfalls and and 100 year snow events are happening and we can't get a flurry! I wish our turn would come at setting snow records. All we're good at in the SE is heat records.

It's safe to say GSP to CLT to RDU will not see another flake this year. And CAE will go 5 years in a row with no measurable snow. Welcome to the new climate where the SE ridge and +NAO dominate. Smdh

I can't wait for somebody to bring up March 1960! As if we have a shot at that 59 years later in this litter box climate!!

Unfortunately winter weather is most likely done. I don't think we know how the very end of Feb and the 1st 2 weeks of March will go yet, but if I was a betting man I would bet money it's over.

Until we can get a -NAO in winter expect more of the same. -EPO only works if its centered more east like 2014. This year it's too far west. We really need the NAO in the SE more than any other region.

Even if we luck out and get a late season miracle, it won't change the fact of how temps are going up and up every year and our window of opportunity gets shorter and shorter every year. I'd say we spend at least a month of met winter with spring temps every year. Maybe not a month consecutive of spring temps but overall the warmth overwhelms the cold.