LibertyBell
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well the sun will likely vaporize the entire planet but human induced climate change will be enough to cause a rapid increase in cloud cover. we won't be on this planet in 1 million years let alone 700 million
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I'm thinking a lesser version of Venus will develop eventually, maybe even permanent cloud cover. With 70% of the surface covered in oceans, it's not even that much of a stretch. The permanent cloud cover will help even out the temperatures across the planet so that's a way of planetary self regulation too, not that we want that lol.
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Our May and Junes used to be much hotter in the 50s and 60s, we hit 99 in May 1962 if I remember correctly and 100 in June 1953. Yes, this is all off the top of my head.... I remember numbers very well and I'm not old enough yet for my memory to be fading (knock on wood lol).
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By the way this has come close to happening in the past. I present to you Summer 1966 and Summer 2011 Summer 1966 Newark 105 Central Park 103 LaGuardia 107 Kennedy 104 Note that in Summer 1966 Central Park was also cooler than Kennedy, was that also a foliage issue? Summer 2011 Newark 108 Central Park 104 Kennedy 103 (I don't remember the La Guardia high temperature from July 2011 off the top of my head.)
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If thats what it takes to get JFK to 104-105, I'm fine with Newark hitting 110+
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summer heat is a lot of fun because we get to go to the beach, there's plenty of water in the ocean to enjoy ;-) CC is actually setting a limit as to how hot our summers can get unfortunately. The sky is the limit with winter though-- at some point, we'll lose our seasons and there won't be a big difference between winter and summer, you're already seeing that with fall just becoming an extension of summer.
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well it has to break sometime Chris, but note as I pointed out before, thee period have been getting longer since 1966.... I believe our extreme high temps are leveling off and flatlining, because the earth is self regulating our summertime high temps, we'll likely reach a ceiling and not get any higher than that. That number is higher for inland areas, but at whatever level, we'll all eventually reach a ceiling and temperatures won't get any higher than that.
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JFK: 41 (2020) wild how cold 2020 still was so late in the season.
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looks like Newark barely got there in 1983 but was the hottest summer at both NYC and JFK until 1991 and 1993 for NYC and 2010 for JFK.
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places like JFK could still hit 100 degrees, you just need a direct westerly flow for a few days. We had this in 1977 in what was otherwise a not so hot summer. we also hit 100 degrees after la ninas (note 2011).
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Yes, it was like 41-42 degrees here and it even looked like graupel here lol. What a raw miserable day that was!
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Didn't we have sleet or snow or graupel on a Memorial Day weekend a few years ago? I forgot what year it was but before 2013 I think?
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I wonder if it will be one of the 11 year cycle years. As you know we have had some of our hottest summers in 11 year cycles, 1933, 1944, 1955, 1966, 1977, 1988, 1999, 2010. We didn't get it in 2021 as expected, but as you mentioned 2022 would have fit this pattern too, so maybe it's not exactly 11 years but close? Of course 1993 doesn't fit this pattern either, but other factors might have been in play to make that summer very hot (like 1980, 1983 and 2002.) So the next time frame to look for that kind of ultrahot summer would be between 2032 and 2034.
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75-80 with sunny skies and a light breeze would be quite perfect .
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Don, when will the clouds move in make our skies overcast? No sun from tomorrow through Saturday?
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Look at 1944, 1949 and 1959 putting in such strong performances on all standings! 1953 putting in a strong performance on number of 100 degree days. I knew we had some real roasters back then but this is very extreme.
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wow this is so much closer than I thought..... 1944 and 1949 putting in a great performance on all standings..... 8 100 degree days in 1949 is absolutely WILD, 1993 just barely edged it out with 9 !!
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wow thanks Tony, so 1993 still has a sizeable lead in 95 and 100 degree days. So basically you could rank them as such: 1993, 2010 and 2022 as the top three summers at Newark.
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Thanks, so 2010 still has a decent lead in 90 degree days but 2022 has tied 1993 in 90 degree days. 1993 still has a sizeable lead in 100 degree days (9), but I'm not sure what their 95 degree tally was. There's a big separation after the top 3.
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that's interesting, 2022 never got the publicity that 2010 did for being very hot, probably because 2010 was hotter over a much larger area. It's like February 2006, a HECS for a small area, vs January 2016, a HECS over a much larger area. What were 1993 numbers for Newark, just for reference, for 95 and 100 degree days?
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Good, we don't need any more rain.
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2022 was nowhere near as hot as 2010 was, which was our heat benchmark. You can even look at the number of 95 degree days and 100 degree days and we have not had anything like that since. And 1993 had 9 100 degree days at Newark, which has not come close to being matched.
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It's not increasing in the city either. Furthermore we have not seen any of the lengthy heatwaves I cited earlier since 2002. I think if we look at a population density map, we'll find that most people actually do live near the shore-- by shore I mean Brooklyn, Southern Queens, south shore of Long Island, etc. The population density is less the further away from the ocean that you go. It's not just the immediate shore. Increasing rainfall is the major reason why we don't see lengthy heatwaves like we used to and until the rainfall goes down, that won't change.
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Memorial Day weekend is a long way off, I could see any rain being suppressed to our south by then.
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I read this wrong because all the really good looking girls would still go out with the guys with a Mohawk cause they've got all the money!
