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what happened to the WAR keeping rain away and giving us warm and sunny weather like it does in the summer

So we'll go back to warm weather in early October?

hey on the positive side, John, you now have much more material to write about for sci fi!

I wish the NY Times was better with this but for some reason they've been lukewarm.

I think the larger cities will be spending a lot of money (trillions) on sea walls. I think Miami, Charleston and even NYC has that in the works. As well as beach replenishment programs to extend the beach outward for better protection.

That reminds me of an excellent old Twilight Zone when the astronaut came back home, but it was to a parallel earth.....

Yes but will this response include curbing usage of fossil fuels?

I know that with chimpanzees and elephants who lost their mothers when they were young became violent and exhibited symptoms of PTSD and nightmares. It's really sad and why poachers get lifetime prison sentences.

and getting chased by mosquitos I can picture reindeer getting bit by them and dumping Santa right out of the sleigh and him falling head first and getting his head stuck in a chimney with his fat ass sticking out (oops I guess I get no presents this year lol)

I hate college football, all the rednecks come out

whats the fastest way to destroy an upper level low? These things seem to always stall out and ruin an entire week. Maybe we're seeing more of them now, I'm wondering why we get this kind of crap weather more frequently now vs back in the 90s and earlier

It could be 120 every day for all I care, what I actually care about is why have our summers become much less sunny and is there any data that tracks that?

why does this happen so much?! I can understand one day of rain in a week, that's my limit but why is it every time it rains it rains for 3 days straight and we see no sun for half a week? you didn't see this stuff in the 90s, you saw actual summers with heat and sunshine not this crap

well no wetness until well after the weekend at least

Maybe they have boom or bust years just like cicadas do?

I wonder if the media even covers these things and questions the administration about being hypocrites.

One thing I did like about what Elon Musk did, he used the first real space trip by an entirely private crew to raise money for St Jude's Children's Hospital......over 200 million was raised and 50 million personally came from him. Also one of the people on the mission was a pediatric cancer survivor and a Physician's Assistant who works at St Jude's. And that was a real space trip- they were up there for 3 whole days and at around 600 miles up and in orbit!

also this one, animals might be more moral than most humans https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10892-018-9275-3 Rowlands (2011, 2012, 2017) has recently argued that some nonhuman animals (hereafter ‘animals’) may be moral creatures, understood as creatures who can behave on the basis of moral motivations. He has argued that, while animals probably lack the sorts of concepts and metacognitive capacities necessary to be held morally responsible for their behaviour, this only excludes them from the possibility of counting as moral agents. There are, however, certain moral motivations that, in his view, may be reasonably thought to fall within the reach of (at least some) animal species, namely, moral emotions such as “sympathy and compassion, kindness, tolerance, and patience, and also their negative counterparts such as anger, indignation, malice, and spite”, as well as “a sense of what is fair and what is not” (Rowlands 2012, 32). If animals do indeed behave on the basis of moral emotions, they should, he argues, be considered moral subjects, even if their lack of sophisticated cognitive capacities prevents us from holding them morally responsible.Footnote 1 The empirical evidence gathered until now suggests that Rowlands may be on the right track and that some animals are indeed capable of behaving morally. Some studies, for instance, have found that animals are sometimes willing to help others when there is no direct gain involved, or even a direct loss. Such apparently altruistic behaviour has been shown by rats (Church 1959; Rice and Gainer 1962; Evans and Braud 1969; Greene 1969; Bartal et al. 2011; Sato et al. 2015), pigeons (Watanabe and Ono 1986), and several primate species (Masserman et al. 1964; Wechkin et al. 1964; Warneken and Tomasello 2006; Burkart et al. 2007; Warneken et al. 2007; Lakshminarayanan and Santos 2008; Cronin et al. 2010; Horner et al. 2011; Schmelz et al. 2017). It has further been found that some animals will offer apparent consolation to individuals in distress, a behaviour that is thought to be triggered by empathic processes and has been observed in primates (de Waal and van Roosmalen 1979; Kutsukake and Castles 2004; Cordoni et al. 2006; Fraser et al. 2008; Clay and de Waal 2013; Palagi et al. 2014), corvids (Seed et al. 2007; Fraser and Bugnyar 2010), canines (Cools et al. 2008; Palagi and Cordoni 2009; Custance and Mayer 2012), elephants (Plotnik and de Waal 2014), horses (Cozzi et al. 2010), budgerigars (Ikkatai et al. 2016), and prairie voles (Burkett et al. 2016). A few studies have also found an aversion to inequity in chimpanzees (Brosnan et al. 2005, 2010), monkeys (Brosnan and de Waal 2003; Cronin and Snowdon 2008; Massen et al. 2012), dogs (Range et al. 2008), and rats (Oberliessen et al. 2016), which suggests the presence of a sense of fairness in these species.Footnote 2

Chimps are smarter than these people https://www.nature.com/articles/21415 Abstract As an increasing number of field studies of chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes) have achieved long-term status across Africa, differences in the behavioural repertoires described have become apparent that suggest there is significant cultural variation1,2,3,4,5,6,7. Here we present a systematic synthesis of this information from the seven most long-term studies, which together have accumulated 151 years of chimpanzee observation. This comprehensive analysis reveals patterns of variation that are far more extensive than have previously been documented for any animal species except humans8,9,10,11. We find that 39 different behaviour patterns, including tool usage, grooming and courtship behaviours, are customary or habitual in some communities but are absent in others where ecological explanations have been discounted. Among mammalian and avian species, cultural variation has previously been identified only for single behaviour patterns, such as the local dialects of song-birds12,13. The extensive, multiple variations now documented for chimpanzees are thus without parallel. Moreover, the combined repertoire of these behaviour patterns in each chimpanzee community is itself highly distinctive, a phenomenon characteristic of human cultures14 but previously unrecognised in non-human species.

But one must wonder what kind of a disaster we are talking about that would shock people into action. Climate change has easily killed many more times as many people as this awful pandemic has. Maybe their ultimate solution is mitigation via telling people to leave coastal areas or they think newly built sea walls will hold up? Maybe they've decided hey we can't stop this as soon as we need to so let's look at other things like putting up walls between the oceans and the cities and let's consider making people relocate by making flood insurance prices so high they can't afford to live there? What do you think about that kind of philosophy, Don?

Looks like you're Team Asteroid too ha

Hey I want to embargo China AND India AND Brazil

These kinds of charts need to have more real life panic and fear injected into them. For example we need to include what cities will be underwater at what temperature levels and how many millions will die at each temperature level. Graphs like these are fine for their purpose but to really scare people into action there needs to be an association made with these and real life results. People can't see 1.5 C or 2 C but they can see at x C temperatures we will lose y millions of people and cities a, b and c will be underwater, etc.

whats been happening in Louisiana for the past 2 years is I would say devastating consequences....

Best thing that could ever happen is another giant asteroid hits the Gulf of Mexico and entirely annihilates any dirty energy sources in the region. Team human or team asteroid.....I'm full on team asteroid lol.