LibertyBell

and right under that he asks for money for his newsletter to cover that time period LOL Not a coincidence.

Jan 2002 was rather cold and we had a -nao for 3 weeks but the snowstorm went into the Carolinas.

whats caused that warm pool?

Chicago will just barely miss out on its longest period without measurable snow if they get any today. Three more days is all they needed. Weird to have Denver and Chicago at or near record levels in this category in the same year.

the -nao is useless it would be better if it was a +nao right now and we were in the 60s and the 70s. One, heating costs and two, 40s and 50s are useless and three, when the pattern does change the -nao time will probably be used up so we still wont get any snow.

more likely than not we'll have a super el nino within the next 2 years

if we get one 6 inch event this season we'll be lucky

I mean it would make more sense if storms that were suppressed and going to go south and east of here were now hitting the jersey shore and long island because of a stronger southeast ridge....the north trend on modeling seems to be real

2010-11 was also a great el nino to la nina and 2016-17 not bad either

yes I love the hot and dry combo, we had that in 1993 too and also in 2010

I remember we got like 1-2 inches or so out of storms that seemed like they would be major for us.

several things active tropical season yes but also the fact that so many of those storms recurved without hitting the east coast that seems to be an important factor in determining storm tracks also the very hot and very dry summer compared to 1933-34 in many respects 2010-11 was another unusual winter we had to reach far back for analogs to that one like 1916-17

according to Ray he reads messages but hasn't responded

I was 8 and thats my first snowstorm memory I remember it so clearly I woke up to see it at 3 am when it first started falling and then saw it fall all day. The snow stuck around all week and there was another snow event the following weekend.

suppression the snow went south of us

la ninas after el ninos may be our best winters of them all

epo driven both winters?

that early February 2010 storm was maddening-- Toms River got two feet of snow and they're what, 50 miles from us? Do you have any snowfall data for the Jersey shore from that winter that shows where the sweet spot was that winter that got directly hit by all the snowstorms? The late Feb storm was the only one in which NYC jackpotted so I'm wondering if there was a spot on the coast that did well in that storm as well as the early Feb storm too. There was also a late Jan storm that dropped 6-8 near Toms River and we got nothing

drawing parallels to Jan 1999 Don? We had a snow event that month

Hopefully. We might have to go through a transition average winter first though (like what 2012-13 was). Going from 2001-02 right to 2002-03 wont happen unless we have a strong el nino next year.

I still say we have a ceiling of 100 inches of snow here. I've read old reports that both NYC and Philly got 100 inches of snow in a couple of years in the 1800s and as recently as the 1860s.

Let's see if we get that again in a few years. 2009-10 and 2010-11 and 2013-14 and 2014-15 maybe have been our best back to back combos. Totally worth getting that skunk stinker 2011-12 in between.

for a few years there it seemed like winters actually started on January 20th. That place was a war zone that year. FWIW I think 2014-15 was highly underrated for us, I found it to be much better than 2013-14 for us on Long Island. 2013-14 was good too but too many changeover events and I'd rather have the heaviest snows to our northeast rather than changeover. February 2015 was the most Arctic like month I've ever witnessed here start to finish and March 2015 was my favorite March in a long time.

it depends on what kind of snow it is-- all is not created equal if its 1/2 of normal snow in storms that change to rain and is washed away getting no snow at all is far better

the shocking part was that 2014-15 was a backloaded winter....all that snow in Boston and they were canceling winter on New Years LOL