LibertyBell

of course we all believe in climate change, we just do not agree how it manifests itself in all areas. Many of us have looked at the data and we see it affects minimum temperatures MUCH more than it affects maximum temperatures during the summer. If you read the text of what I posted, I referred specifically to summer maximums. In the winter the situation is different, it affects maximums just as much as minimums. This is a nuanced discussion and you can't apply the same effects to different seasons or even to different times of the diurnal cycle. That's what most people miss. and the phrase *global warming* has been retired in favor of climate change, because climate change much more accurately describes what's going on.

Incidentally it would have been 90 here with more sunshine.

I thought you like cooler temps

Tony, what's the earliest JFK has hit 100? I know they've hit 100 multiple times in my life on or just after July 4th. July 4, 2010 101 degrees (hotter than either NYC or LGA) July 5, 1999 102 degrees

note how JFK is hotter than either LGA or NYC on an offshore wind.

86 here just one off EWR, nice. I expect the same thing at least for the peak heat day next week on Tuesday.

if anything it actually adds to warming by increasing overnight lows (even if it does dampen down extreme highs in the NE and other areas that have been getting excessive rainfall.)

They didn't have Montauk hitting 80 on a SW wind either a few weeks ago and yet it happened.

its just like they overdo the rain/snow line and show Long Island getting 0 snow lol

Yes, we live in a continental climate, the influence of the ocean is limited and in such a situation comes in only after the high temperature has already been reached.

Either way, whatever the high temperature is, it's going to be seen as a referendum on the effects of climate change on our area in terms of summertime high temperatures. Let's see how much climate change has really affected our high temperatures in the summer. JFK hit 99 on May 29, 1969 and 98 on June 19, 1994. Let's see if CC has made enough of a difference to beat those records, sea breeze or not.

Second one is June 19, 1994 https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ny/new-york-city/KJFK/date/1994-6-19 12:00 PM 97 °F 65 °F 35 % NW 10 mph 0 mph 29.93 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 1:00 PM 98 °F 67 °F 36 % N 12 mph 0 mph 29.93 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 2:00 PM 95 °F 67 °F 40 % N 13 mph 0 mph 29.92 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 3:00 PM 94 °F 67 °F 41 % N 9 mph 21 mph 29.91 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 4:00 PM 92 °F 66 °F 42 % N 14 mph 0 mph 29.91 in 0.0 in Mostly Cloudy 5:00 PM 88 °F 68 °F 51 % W 8 mph 0 mph 29.92 in 0.0 in Mostly Cloudy 6:00 PM 92 °F 70 °F 48 % NE 15 mph 0 mph 29.92 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 7:00 PM 90 °F 67 °F 46 % NE 13 mph 0 mph 29.93 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy

Seabreezes typically don't come in until after 4 pm. Two early season situations I found for JFK, both close to 100. First is May 29, 1969 https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ny/new-york-city/KJFK/date/1969-5-29 2:00 PM 97 °F 63 °F 32 % WNW 8 mph 0 mph 29.67 in 0.0 in Mostly Cloudy 3:00 PM 98 °F 62 °F 30 % WNW 18 mph 0 mph 29.65 in 0.0 in Mostly Cloudy 4:00 PM 99 °F 63 °F 30 % W 17 mph 0 mph 29.62 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 5:00 PM 97 °F 62 °F 31 % W 17 mph 0 mph 29.61 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 6:00 PM 88 °F 66 °F 48 % WSW 15 mph 0 mph 29.59 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 7:00 PM 88 °F 63 °F 43 % WSW 14 mph 0 mph 29.60 in 0.0 in Fair

Yes and I think they're talking about blue green algae which is actually a form of bacteria that is photosynthetic.

the seabreeze doesn't work that way though, the sea breeze comes in well after it has hit 100 in such a scenario, so you can easily be 100+ at 12 noon and the sea breeze comes in at like 4 pm, thats how it usually works around here.

close to 70 here or more precisely, the range is 63-68, 63 further east and 68 further west.

a light wind can easily result in 100+ unless you're on Fire Island or Long Beach.

people have a distorted view of the seabreeze, we were in the 90s on a SW wind 10 days ago, this is Long Island not Greenland.

we just did it like 10 days ago lol. the water doesn't have as much influence as you think

thinking it's fertilizer runoff.

but here in the northeast our air has become more humid and more cloudy, I compare years like 1944, 1948, 1949, 1953, 1955, 1966, when it was far easier to hit 100+ in drier air than it is now. Our cloudiness has increased since that earlier, much drier era.

a couple of beaches on Long Island are closed because of elevated bacteria levels thanks to excessive rainfall and runoff from hazardous chemicals....

I'm thinking cloud cover is actually increasing in the northeast though, just going by how much wetter our climate has been getting.

This is what I mean by a wetter atmosphere. From my own personal observations, it's made it harder to reach or exceed 100 and especially to get higher than 102 especially in the city and at the coast. Even without a seabreeze. In all our big heatwaves, like in 1993 and 1999, even in 2010 and 2011, I've seen clouds billow up as the temperature reached 100 or when it got into the lower 100s. Even on W or NW flow this tends to cut off the temperature rise. During the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, I deduce in our very hot summers there was less in the way of clouds and thats how NYC hit 106 in 1936 and how JFK hit 104 and LGA hit 107 in 1966. I know that 1966 was our driest year on record and no other year was even close.

It's much more logical to assume we needed lower heights to reach 100+ in the 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, because the air was much drier back then. We got a taste of that in 2010.....