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wild, are those locations also getting an elevated number of 90 degree (hot) days? Typically in the Poconos we can count on heat during the day but it would always cool off at night so we didn't need air conditioning, we just opened our windows and the outside air would cool down my house at night. 2024 was different as it was hot during the day and at night.

GGEM also has rain for the coast a lot during the winter lol

we hit 88 here too but then the clouds came in

Nice, it sounds like I would be 100+ on Tuesday on that model run too.

I remember Summer 2024 being extremely hot in the Poconos, it was the first time in my life I needed air conditioning at 2,000 ft elevation out there, not even the very hot summers of 1991, 1993, 1995, 1999, 2002, 2010, 2011, needed that =\ Was Allentown on the list of their hottest summer last year? Mount Pocono too? Oh I pointed out the September / October heat of Monsoons in Asia because I think we might be headed in that direction too, we've had summerlike early-mid Falls lately. Last October-mid November was very summer like and September has been for awhile now. Think we can beat those old records from the 1930s-1960s this decade? I saw a few June 100s records from that time period a few years in the 50s had temperatures of 100+ in June at NYC, even JFK was 99 in May 1969 (which seems crazy to me lol) and NYC hit 101 in June 1966 before the big heat really came in July (for all of us.)

this feels like how models trend badly with snowfall events the processes are similar.

is it just for Monday or Tuesday too?

These radical shifts are a sign of inaccuracy.

None of these models have a good history with modeling a sea breeze front, this is something you have to wait until the day of the event to have a handle on it.

-PNA/-NAO combo sounds a lot like some of those late 60s winters.

now 88 here lol

yesterday and today are ideal, I'm trying to prep myself for the upcoming heat, although it's fun seeing the temp hit 100, it's really something you have to prep your body for, especially when it lasts multiple days.

I think the geese would stay away if people didn't litter so much (same goes for rats).

the yucky corn and soy fields out there have raised the dew points considerably.

yes and immediate coast means the beach, not where I live which is 2 miles north of the beach.

we're a lot hotter than 82 here, I hit 87 here about 10 minutes ago

there are so many issues with it that go far beyond temperature, like higher rates of asthma and cancer (and light pollution causes cancer too.) not to mention that high rates of processed food consumption lead to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc. So urban farming has multiple benefits.

Ironic that you mentioned Sandy, Walt, the last time I remember such extreme heat so early was in June 2012, and we experienced Sandy a few months later.

the parks department sucks, I read that they are replacing playground grass fields with astroturf, which causes more heat and more injuries.... cheap goons (they dont want to pay for upkeep, watering, mowing, etc).

Incidentally, there's a major push in NYC and other large urban cities like Chicago, to greenify the city. Because UHI has major health implications too. The pledge is to make the city at least 30% green by 2030 and remove a lot of the concrete pollution where people live. We're also seeing it with the push for rooftop gardens, urban farming, community gardens, etc. So maybe greening the city will help control UHI and its health implications on people (while also cleaning the air, as more greenery means less air pollution and lower asthma rates too.)

Yes no doubt there are major foliage issues now and I think that manifests itself most in wet patterns like we were in until recently. It's much less of an issue when we're in a dry pattern.

well, the park maybe (which is what thousands of people do), but not in the concrete jungle of course.

Right thats my point and yet Central Park was also cooler by a significant margin in 1966 (and apparently also in 1973 when the high temperature at JFK was 100 and only 94 at Central Park.) I think the real conclusion to draw is that the park isn't representative of Manhattan as a whole and when you measure temperatures in a park you'd expect them to be lower than they would be in the concrete jungle or at an airport. Sure Central Park has foliage issues, but you'd expect their temperatures to be cooler even without those issues, as happened in 1966 and 1973.

wild, I didn't know about that one Don and that was before the overfoliage era at Central Park. It's even more than the 5 degree difference on July 4, 2010 (101 at JFK, 96 at NYC). Do you know offhand what the high at Central Park was on May 29, 1969 when JFK had their one and only 99 in May, Don?

omg JFK already had 8 90 degree days at this point in 2010 and NYC only had 4? LOL