LibertyBell

Sunspots visible with the naked eye are extraordinary! The sun is blindingly bright, you usually need a solar filter to see them (for example-- last year.) I would add that them being visible by day (and the extreme cold in the summer) might also be related to the eruption of Tambora which occurred around then? Wasn't 1816 the year without a summer? The volcanic eruption could have the dual effect of cooling the climate and dimming the sun -- which would make the sunspots easier to see with the naked eyes (still not recommended-- looking at the sun directly except during a total solar eclipse at totality will damage your eyes.) By the way yesterday was the one year anniversary of the total solar eclipse-- it seems like a century ago lol.

wouldn't the westerly flow actually result in a larger beach since the ocean is being pushed offshore?

it's really just a 2 day storm, the other days just have a small amount of rain late (Thursday) and a small amount of rain early (Sunday).

I mean once that storm leaves the westerly flow will come right back the storm is just an island in a vast westerly sea!!

Yes, this is why they were called minutemen....

I wonder if they even wore knickers back then LOL

Thanks, in the Pennsylvania Weather Book it was reported that both New York City and Philadelphia had 100 inches of snow and constant snowcover from Thanksgiving to St Patrick's Day a few times in the 1800s (and likely in the 1700s too). I forgot what years they pointed to but they likely included 1804-1805, 1835-1836 and a few others. In the 1700s 1782-83 should be included in that list since there was a huge volcanic eruption in Iceland that year and Washington's diary mentions a dozen blizzards in Morristown NJ and the ink in his pen freezing there lol. I love these old historic accounts. By the way, Roger posted snowfall records from Providence RI going back to 1831 in a pdf file in the CC subforum, that may be of some interest.

Here's some from the Poconos, these were the coldest I could find anywhere within 3 hours of us. They were between 18.7 and 21.9 Much lower than the 25 degree low reported for KMPO. https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAJIMTH8?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash 21.9 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAJIMTH71 20.7 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAJIMTH33 21.7 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAJIMTH7 18.7 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAJIMTH64 20.3 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAJIMTH60 21.0 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAALBRI36 21.0 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAALBRI43 20.5 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAALBRI9 19.2 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAALBRI44 20.0 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KPAALBRI22 19.9

a final warming event? it resulted in our latest below freezing temperature (31) this morning since about 2014 when we had some accumulating snow on 4/16/2024.

I'm not going to make too much of this but we had a suspect adjustment made just this past season and I checked with one of the CT Mets who makes seasonal snowfall maps for New England and for our area too and he found it weird too and had no explanation for it. The jist of it is this, there was an event where JFK measured 2.6 inches and NYC measured only 1.2 inches (this was one of those storms where the zookeeper made his final measurement hours before the storm ended.) No way could this be right we all had 2-4 inches in this storm. Wouldn't want to make a big deal about this but a bunch of people wrote to the NWS about the discrepancy between JFK and NYC and one of our forum members who took a walk in Central Park said it was definitely more than 1.2 inches there and probably between 2.5-3 inches (matching some of the other local reports.) Anyway, what did NWS do? They didn't adjust the 1.2 amount at NYC upwards to match the local reports, what they actually did was adjust the JFK downward from 2.6 to 1.0. LOL I actually didn't expect them to adjust the Central Park number upward, but to actually adjust the JFK downward from 2.6 to 1.0 was REALLY WEIRD.

The zookeeper at Central Park is another story, you know they haven't properly measured a snowfall when the amounts are reported as 1.0, 6.0, 10.0, etc. In one winter they had like 5 snowfall reports that ended with a .0 at the end. Sometimes they don't even measure all the way to the end of the storm. I remember one event pretty clearly (the 10.0 event) where they made the last measurement at 7 PM and it kept snowing until well after midnight and the 7 PM measurement was taken as the final total. Can't be bothered to wake up in the middle of the night to make a final measurement I guess. There's also the thing about adjusting snowfall totals days or weeks after an event but that's another story altogether lol.

Chris do you have LE numbers for New Haven, CT, your current location, where that 44" amount was reported?

This morning was likely our last freezing or below low for the season, 31.5 F at my location. 31F at NYC and 32F at JFK

I wish we could get LE numbers for these high amounts lol

a snow bow or a moon bow are pretty rare! Do you have to be near the lake to see them?

Thanks, Don, I posted my survey of nearby weather stations above, they were mostly between 30.5 and 32.4, the ones that were higher were right near the ocean (32.9 and 33.6 Atlantic Beach and Long Beach.) Mine was 31.5 so right in the middle of the range.

JFK's low should have been at or below freezing. I did a quick survey of weather stations around the area and the range was mostly 30.5 to 32.4 The higher ones were right on the ocean (32.9 to 33.6) Atlantic Beach and Long Beach. Mine was 31.5 so solidly below freezing. https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYWOODM4?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash 31.8 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYVALLE2 32.2 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYELMON7 31.6 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYNEWYO2117 31.8 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYNEWYO1715 31.8 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYNEWYO2050 32.2 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYNEWYO1053 32.0 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYJACKS2 32.2 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYNEWYO1958 31.8 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYVALLE1 31.5 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYWOODM8 30.5 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYATLAN9 32.9 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYLONGB22 32.4 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYOCEAN18 30.8 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYROCKV18 30.6 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYVALLE55 31.5 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYLYNBR43 31.4 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYVALLE15 33.6 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYMALVE17 31.5 https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KNYROCKV9 31.7

It became one of our best home opener memories they still replay that game sometimes and of course it was a harbinger for a GREAT 1996 season!! Hey today's the anniversary of that game and that snowstorm!!

Yeah I don't know which way to go with those measurements, some may be too low, others may be too high. I could see it going either way. Also, over 440 people died in that storm in NYC alone so they likely weren't thinking too much about making proper measurements.

I definitely question some of these measurements for the March 1888 superblizzard. 21 inches in Central Park 26 inches in southern Brooklyn 35 inches in northern Queens 38 inches on the north shore of Long Island 44 inches on the south shore of CT

I wonder how the LE totals from the two storms would compare? Maybe 3" LE from the 1997 event but less than that from the 2018 event?

Maybe you'll get some snow with this next storm, Rob. I saw there were some lake effect streamers into the Poconos and the lower Hudson valley late last night too.

I hope we got to 32 in between hours.

Going back to the April Fools Day storm, did you measure it both ways back then too, Ray? Was there a difference? I think that was an even bigger storm for you than March 2018 was wasn't it?

Next week dry all week and sunny :-) Monday and Tuesday in the low 70s After that a little cooler but no one will care because it will be sunny. Temperatures don't really matter now, it's all about sunshine.