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Florida and Texas have each reported ~400 deaths in just the past 2 days.

No Biden. He is currently not even in a position to enact policy.

Unless there is some substantive news in relation to the virus, I don't want to see Trump mentioned in here.

Hopefully the heart affects are temporary. It's a big problem if they aren't, or even if they fade away after some years go by because in the meantime you'd have people who survived the acute phase of covid but die prematurely.

Was a little scared to open this thread when I saw it was a "hot" topic. Good to see it didn't go down the toilet with a bunch of name calling and bashing. Anyway, carry on.

Really bad sign that there is already an outbreak on a team. Reports say that it is like 11+ players on the Marlins. MLB is in a tough spot. I think they may be inclined to wait and see if this is sort of an isolated incident as far as this big of an outbreak. If another team or two gets slammed, they definitely pull the plug on the season.

National covid hospitalization levels are at the level they were at back in April. Does not mean we will see a death rate like we had back then (due to a higher proportion of younger people being hospitalized as well as having more knowledge about how to treat now) but unfortunately we are probably just going to rip off 1000+ deaths a day for the foreseeable future, except on the weekend/lag days.

Bars/clubs in Indianapolis are closing and restaurants are going back down to 50%. I think it is only Indy/Marion county so far and not across the state. We have not trended very well in July, though fortunately the hospital situation is not currently on the brink as is the case in other states.

Had the same thought. I mean, he was living in Florida and they are going through a rough time. Though the story said he was surrounded by family members, which could suggest another cause since people who die of covid usually die without family physically present. Unless they were on a video chat or something...

Damn man. Thanks for sharing your account.

Good post. Just wear a damn mask. Anything that can help lessen spread of this virus. There is room for debate about the exact effectiveness of face coverings and which ones work the best, but I'd be shocked if it turned out that they didn't help at all with covid. There is a better argument for not having a covid vaccine be mandatory (you can't take it off or undo it like a mask and there are actually some side effects with vaccines) but I suppose that is an argument for another time.

Statewide masking order goes into effect in Indiana on Monday for people over 8 years old. I am not sure where that particular number is coming from. I know there is some data out there to suggest that kids over age 10 and especially over age 15 are better at spreading the virus than younger kids.

Looks like today may have the highest fatality number since the end of May, or at least top 2.

The Disney safety protocols seem pretty good from what I saw. Bigger concern may be when people are at their hotels. Of course it is one thing to have protocols in place and another to follow them all of the time. The timing is poor since they reopened during an ongoing surge, so this Disney experiment will be interesting to follow.

I think high schools and colleges are of particular concern. Teenagers/college kids seem to be more efficient spreaders.

Yeah, see my post above. The thing about 10 people pertains to the second dose of the vaccine. I wonder why that group was so small.

So what it is is that they gave a second dose to 10 people. I saw it quickly yesterday and mixed it up.

Is that the one that was tested on like 10 people?

Masks are now required in my county where distancing can't be maintained. This won't be a change for me but I routinely see at least 10-20% of people not wearing masks when I go into stores/businesses.

Fyi, going to be tightening things up a bit in here. Overtly political posts/bashing will most likely be removed. Would prefer to not even see the president and other politicians mentioned. The post about the president wearing a mask will be left up (at least for now) because of the significance/symbolism.

Hell froze over.

That person makes good points, though I think there is a little hyperbole at times. For one, the IFR is most likely under 1%. But even if it is 0.3%, that would be 1 million dead Americans if everybody caught the virus. Secondly, it is hard to know at this point whether some of the damage to the body is permanent. The idea that it could be permanent though should be enough for everyone to respect this and take it seriously.

It may work if we can definitively know that people cannot be reinfected, the quarantined people never set foot outside of their houses and never come in contact with a non quarantined individual. Other than that...

Anyway, this thread is getting too political. Get back on track.

Of course this pandemic would've been a lot to dump on any president, let alone somebody who never held any office. Whether or not someone wants to use that as an excuse is up to them. Presidents usually get tested at some point in their presidency. We went through a lot of this same stuff in the 1918 pandemic. Masks, closures, etc. And guess what? Things eventually became normal again. You didn't have to wear a mask in public for the rest of your life. I'm not sure if there was such vociferous resistance back then. I know we didn't have twitter and the like, lol.