hardypalmguy

2 minutes ago, luckyweather said:

Canada / Laurasia was well north of the equator by the Jurassic, (was equatorial more toward the Cambrian), not sure if palm guy is up on his paleogeology or was just a lucky guess, but as you said the planet was *hot* in the Jurassic with 4x the co2 of today from volcanism and there are palm fossils on the Canadian coasts from both the Jurassic even going into the Cretaceous. Got so hot in the early Jurassic the ocean died / the Jenkyns event. As an oil and gas guy, that’s when some of the rich deposits originate. When our ecosystems and biomes collapse and the palms return to Canada our decay will lay down a nice field of jet fuel for whatever life form takes over next in a few hundred million years. 

we would do just fine.  probably find me on a hammock on the coast of lake superior under the coconut palms.

Police picked up an alligator on Grant Park beach in South Milwaukee on Monday. Why do I get the sense this is [mention=13722]hardypalmguy[/mention]’s doings? First the palms, then the flamingos, now this 

“Cool” front moved through bringing very gusty NW winds this evening near 40mph. Tomorrow and Friday look seasonal to slightly cooler then average then the torch cranks up. 60s here next week.
Since everyone has been talking about leaf drop, there’s a photo from Thanksgiving day 97’ or 98’ of my brother and I in a giant pile of freshly fallen leaves in Lake County Illinois. I believe sun angle and length of daylight dictates leaf drop a bit more then temperature. 
 
I know it’s gentle trolling but if the Great Lakes region could ever support palms we’d be looking at global crop failure and famine.

1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said:

BTW you realize cromartie was lying. There is no way he was done raking by mid-October in the 1990s and now not until late-November. I guess somehow magically his leaves fell 2-3 weeks earlier in the 1990s and now fall 2-3 weeks later than they do at a similar climate here in SE MI. 

Dude back in the 80s/early 90s they sold orange plastic bags with faces on them that you stuffed with leaves to decorate for Halloween.  You couldn't use those now as there's no leaves on the ground until maybe the last week of October.  I do fall cleanup now Nov 10-20 every year as I still have l trees full of leaves.

1 minute ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Same here. Remember filling up all the pumpkin bags with all of the fallen leaves in the weeks prior to Halloween.

Yes, the orange pumpkin garbage bags in the 80s/early 90s!  Now those would be impossible to use because trees are usually still mostly full all the way to Halloween!

47 minutes ago, Lightning said:

Every year I want an early hard freeze so I can be done with leaf clean up by Halloween.  Yet even if I get one; every year I need to do a final leaf clean up in Mid-November.  Hasn't changed my 30 years of property ownership in this area.  Always done before Thanksgiving and never done before Halloween.   Only thing a early hard freeze does is allow me to clean out the garden sooner.

I used to have leaves cleaned up by mid October in the 1980s/1990s.  Now it's mid to late November. 

1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said:

There is a HUGE difference between a few additional days of frost free weather and supporting palms. I mean I would hope that amidst their trolling these guys have enough common sense to realize what is a legitimate goal and what is not. On a somewhat related note. A guy down the street, bless his ignorance, planted a tropical hibiscus in June in front of his house. I told him it looks nice, but he should maybe have it in a pot. He said he thinks it's supposed to survive winter lol. Nwedless to say, it is already wilted and dead after a handful of frosts and freezes before winter has even begun.

 

Oh and Lakeshore living is always interesting because the leaves hang on so much longer in the fall and bloom so much later in the spring. 

It could be a hardy hibiscus.

Models really trying to give us a perfect day for Saturday 11/18 with 70s and light winds.

22 minutes ago, Powerball said:

Maybe then, y'all can experience the greatness that is In-N-Out...

Might be awhile for sabal palmettos here though.  Windmills and needles I see making it.

Solid agreement on deep toughing returning to the West Coast much of next week, as we see a bit of a shake up in the large scale pattern across North America and vicinity. This will lead to another period of very mild temperatures across the sub-forum.

2 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:

Lmao. The Great Lakes will never be able to support palms naturally. Jokes aside though, I said it in passing last month and without fail it's true every year. November is the month where regardless of the weather, Winter weenies fear. We've had quite a few colder & snowier than average November's recently, and the take is always that it's bad luck for the winter. But then, if you have a mild November, that's also bad luck.

Great lakes area has already went up 1-2 growing zones since the year 2000.  The time is coming.

1 hour ago, A-L-E-K said:

palm winter '23/'24

you know it.  climate change is a hard pill to swallow, but the great lakes region might be the first area to explode with palms outside the south.

1 hour ago, A-L-E-K said:

hoping to tag 70

MKE has 70 in the bag.

Anybody remember this snow storm? It sort of maxed out in and near Cedar Rapids to Madison Milwaukee on 2/6/2008
 

58 minutes ago, tuanis said:

Happy Halloween, good to be back in the game. Hopefully these aren’t the best rates of the winter 

 

Probably could be.

10 minutes ago, A-L-E-K said:

ready 2 b buried

what happened to san diego life?

47 minutes ago, Baum said:

snow on Halloween is never a good sign longer term. 

I'll take it.

Wow what a change. Was in the 60s most of the day with a jump up to 70 right before the front. Dews were mid 60s and with the lighter winds it legit felt really humid today. Had a nice cell move through and drop a heavy burst of rain and then the front hit with the sharp drop….

1 hour ago, Brian D said:

Seasonable to warm the last few days. Just some off, and on shower activity. 1.45" so far running half of avg, and probably not much more to add to that before cold, CA air moves in with snow showers. that'll be a shot in arse, but temps will rebound closer to avg after a few days of mid Nov-ish temps. Low-mid 40's for highs is avg late Oct into the first week of Nov. Upper 20's-low 30's for lows. Avg's really nose dive through Oct-Nov. Conversely for March-April.

That's late November averages here.  WOW.

1 hour ago, OrdIowPitMsp said:

Foggy, drizzly, dreary day. 0.70” of rainfall today, temps stuck in the mid 50s but that’s all about to change. 

Damn dude, sorry you missed out on the warmth and dews that are down here.

1 hour ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Not bad. Looking at ThreadEx, there have only been 3 warmer days later in the year (84, 10/26/1963; 85, 10/30/1950, and 84, 10/31/1950) and one additional 83F reading (10/27/1927). For that matter, there have only been 8 days at or above 80+F after October 24th in recorded history. It was also the latest 80F+ reading at Chicago since 1999, when it reached 80F on 10/28.

If this had occurred about a week later, we could have seen a third consecutive month start off with notable warmth. But it looks like November will buck that trend and start off on a chilly note.

MKE has never had a warmer day this late in the year than the 82 recorded yesterday.

Topped out at 83° at ORD today, which tied the record high temperature for the date (1963).

MKE about to tie/break their old record of 80.  Just think, hitting 80 when the sun angle is equivalent to mid February.

7 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said:

This week is not looking nearly as good as it did a few days ago.  The first three waves of rain will be a bust as they miss north and south.  The Thursday rain could be ok, but likely not great.  The weekend system may end up pretty strung out and south.  Models had, unanimously, been predicting widespread 2-3+" across Iowa through the weekend, but many locations in a band through the middle of the state may struggle just to get an inch.  2023 strikes again.

Good.  I have yard work to do.  Rain impedes that.