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13 hours ago, cyclone77 said:
Nothing is more festive than worms on Christmas. Here's a snippet from DVN's AFD today.
Looking at Christmas, there seems a higher risk of smelling worms outside than shoveling snow around here this year with moist air and highs in the upper 40s to lower 50s, and lows above freezing.
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Well look at that. Another top shelf record could fall. Loving this warm December. Palm tree weather continues.
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9 hours ago, michsnowfreak said:
Someone who is into every stat imaginable for the area, I can assure you that everything and anything is possible. A warm december does not mean it won't snow. Likewise, I'm confident in a much colder January and February, but that does not guarantee a lot of snow (of course even if we do get the dreaded CAD we have the lakes on our side). I don't think this December will come close to Dec 1881 or 2015 warmth, but it will certainly blend right in with the other mild decembers of strong ninos. Really nothing you can do but just ride the roller coaster that is the weather.
however you can cope man
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looking like the palm tree will go un-boxed into january.
this will be the first such time since i've had it, which dates back to 2008 or so.
Yep I still have a ton outside as well totally undamaged. This clearly shows how fast our early winters are warming.
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funny thing is if it weren’t for that short-lived albeit severe cold snap, last Dec would’ve finished comfortably above average temp wise.
Yep December was a torch outside of that mini outbreak of cold air. It hit 60 in Milwaukee before New Years.
Looks like this December is cooked. One of three winter months done. Two to go. Then the palms can come back out to play.
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1 hour ago, Powerball said:
Right.
Will have to wait until after New Years in order for the days in totality to get longer.
Actually last week of December....
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27 minutes ago, DocATL said:
Let this sink in…on December 23rd the GFS has high temps in the mid 60’s in South Dakota. Mid 60’s!!
fine with me. let's get back to april
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Valencia orange. In Wisconsin.
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When talking trends....clearly the recent trend is Decembers suck and Februarys are the best month of winter. But when you plug in different time periods into xmacis, you can see what trends were when making time periods longer or shorter. For instance, the last 100 year trend at Detroit has shown ZERO warming in Jan-Feb so the entire warming of winter (which isnt much) has been December.
POR (1874-2022)
Dec warmed 2.1F, gotten 0.19” wetter & 0.7” snowier
Jan warmed 0.4F, gotten 0.12” drier & 2.1” snowier
Feb warmed 2.9F, gotten 0.36” drier & 2.8” snowier
100 years (1923-2022)
Dec warmed 2.6F, gotten 0.25” wetter & 2.5” snowier
Jan COOLED 0.5F, gotten 0.13” drier & 5.4” snowier
Feb warmed 0.5F, gotten 0.21” wetter, & 7.3” snowier
50 years (1973-2022)
Dec warmed 5.9F, gotten 0.40” drier, 6.5” less snowy
Jan warmed 4.0F, gotten 0.17” wetter, 1.8” snowier
Feb warmed 2.7F, gotten 0.64” wetter, 10.5” snowier!
30 years (1993-2022)
Dec warmed 3.4F, gotten 0.70” wetter, 0.2” snowier
Jan warmed 0.6F, gotten 0.73” drier, 2.2” less snowy
Feb COOLED 1.0F, gotten 0.51” wetter, 12.6” snowier!
Those coping drugs must be some good stuff.- 2
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Fun fact — MKE has not been below freezing through the first 10 days of December.
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Glad they aren’t succumbing to the cold. Did you have anything outside during the January 2019 cold snap? Wasn’t that the last deep cold in Milwaukee?
For me this time of year I’d define “palm tree weather” as days within 3 degrees of a record high.
I didn’t have anything outside 2019 winter. I had a windmill palm that got over 15 feet tall in ground from 2008-2018 that I finally wasn’t able to protect because I needed scaffolding or boom lift. So I let it go. Now I’m getting back to stuff in the ground and experimenting with how much they can take.
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You’ve really lowered the bar if that’s considered palm tree weather.
I still have unprotected palms out as an experiment this winter. Windmill palms and needle palms don’t blink twice at any of the forecasted temps.
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Keep what we have going for next 90 days. Definitely won’t complain.
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Looks like we have more palm tree weather than winter weather this year. I’ll definitely take this any day it’s delivered as each day like this makes one less cold day possible and one more day closer to spring.
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fooled u
lol upper terrain. Shouldn’t that be what happens in October not December?- 1
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Close, but no cigar. MKE topped out at 58. You even bested us way down here by a degree.
I think the mid afternoon high clouds did us in. All in all a beautiful day for December.- 1
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As big a snowlover & Christmas lover as I am, if I HAD to pick which DJF month to suck, I would actually pick December. I mean it's like choosing which bone to break. It's NOT a preference, just if I HAD to pick one. Always so busy with so many Christmas activities in Dec, whereas January & February are the boring quiet months, outside of weather.
Now you’re bargaining and coping because you can’t handle the loss of an entire winter month year after year. Winters are warming and we are witnessing the shoulder months going first. We aren’t at the point yet where January and first half of February go but it will happen soon enough.- 3
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another 2 week winter incoming
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january here we come, then just a couple months until spring
eps just brutal for snow lovers
I know with winter days like this spring will be here before we know it.- 1
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MKE beginning today at 46 should allow 60 to be realized as long as we can maintain sunshine and good mixing.
This is a top shelf December day. Palm tree weather is back!- 3
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Winter 2023/24 Medium/Long Range Discussion
in Lakes/Ohio Valley
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I have about 60 unprotected windmill palms outside that I'm testing for hardiness.