Yes to both. But even then(1/10)…Things sometimes don’t get going until after that. But it will be more concerning for sure. Not saying this is 2015, but that season had a blast furnace Xmas, with zilch until Friday, 1/24 when we had a wet snow 1-4” on a Friday night, and then the 0z euro brought back from the dead the blizzard for that Monday, 1/27, and then it was off to the races. So many times, it just takes an excruciatingly long while to get going. But I think we all expected this here in December.