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Serious question…When do you switch to winter mode? Or have you just had enough and don’t enjoy it anymore? .

Dog has cancer so the prednisone makes him pee all night and I went out at about 5am..the wind was insane and a mist literally blowing sideways. It was intense. Still windy now, but nothing like that. Def a fall crisp out there today. Hoodie weather. .

Welcome aboard .

There’s some color for those who enjoy staring at leaves, but def a lot of drop. .

Then I just learned something and I was wrong .

The temps were based on data back to 1990 and if you accept the noaa climate data, the earths temp has risen by an average of .11 degrees f per decade. So while climate change is real, this is another example of hyperbole, thinking this year’s numbers would be “several” degrees above normal if compared to 2010s. And I believe if you were following that logic anyway and comparing to higher base numbers, this years temps would actually be more so below if your starting mean was higher, but I get your point. .

100 percent. That’s the point of my tirade. In summer, I’m all about 90 degree days and the beach..in winter, 3 foot snowstorms…but not everything is “it might never frost, freeze, snow, rain etc.” again. I tell my kids all the time in sports; act like you’ve been there before…no need for the drama. .

There is no denying the last two seasons in southern New England and the northern mid Atlantic were as trash as can be. .

You’re reasonable and look to facts. If you post that the month ran a plus 3, then that’s what it is. But some would have you think that one of the snowiest decades since records started being kept occurred during the revolutionary war, not 10 years ago. It’s been warm in vt, but not everywhere has been as extreme. I just picked a random CT city and looked at the departures and the last two months both Aug and sept were actually BN (unless I’m reading it wrong which is always a possibility). If you read some of the stuff over the last two months, you would think CT was an island on the sun. So while I get some only want torches and humidity, (yes, not everyone has to love snow and cold) call the ridiculous posts what they are…implying that peaks in NE were always white in early/mid October way back, but now, that never happens ignores that it has happened the last 3 years in a row, the earliest of the 3 being this year. .

When you sit back and actually think about some of the troll comments logically, it's actually funny. It's just ridiculous stuff. There is no one on this board that knows what will happen four months from now. There is no way anyone can actually make a predication about frost or not 45 days from now, let alone the snow totals in the month of February. We all root on the weather we wish for, and there has to be a healthy balance between the wish casters and those who put us back in touch with reality, but lately, it's all about who can make the most dramatic doom and gloom prediction out there.

I remember back in 2024 when the peaks were white by early-mid October. Sucks now. .

Do you happen to know the low temp on December 16th too?

This is a dumb (because I know the answer will be yes) question, but do you have first flakes data for the northern greens recently? That quick Jay burst in September, though clearly not record type stuff, seemed early. .

First flakes early/mid September…first coating early mid October. Not earth shattering, but a good (even if normal) start this year. There’s some decent cold in the next two weeks..and warmth too…maybe a normal, to just below normal month and no temp drama or dew talk? .

IF those temps on the gfs held, there is, in theory, a window in the next 10-14 days killington could probably blow open rime and reason on the north ridge. Not saying it would stay open straight through, but might be a power move and message by the new private ownership to get the first October open in quite a few seasons. Even if they couldn’t hold them open into November, might be worth the publicity and marketing… .

Yeah, I got it. Wasn’t a shot at you…or anyone. Just the general sentiment of late that everything sucks and there’s no reason to be excited about cold or snow anymore because it’ll inevitably suck somehow, because it’s always hot and everything sucks, because, you know, it just sucks…that’s been beaten into us after a few crappy winters. Just trying to remember what that feeling of transitioning into cold/snow season was like as a kid. .

Well that's certainly a way to shit in the cornflakes of anyone excited about the first NE flakes of the season. Though Jay had something frozen fall for about 30 seconds a few weeks ago at 3500 feet. If anything, it's pretty much right on schedule.

Some flakes for the peaks, and overnight freezes in the forecast. After the last two seasons, the bar isn't particularly high so let's hope for a great season.

That gfs run doesn’t exactly scream October torch. First flakes for sure in the greens if that held. Perfect dry, mild outdoor weather for the last month, then right into some N-BN temps…no complaints. .

The best worst winter ever….think Steven Adler doing speed balls. The highs were great, but the lows inevitably followed. The April 4th 3 footer was a nice way to end it tho. .

Colors really starting to come in at jay. They added webcams on both sides last year with 13 different views, so great Mountain Views for fall and snow season. .

Powdr sells killington?? It’s not April fools so I’m assuming the storm article is accurate. Looks like a couple locals bought it and are keeping management in place. .

No argument about okemo. They have been killing it in the snowmaking department the last couple years. One of the more reliable, early season spots when conditions get iffy. I just don’t love the terrain enough to justify it. .

That looks incredible .

Jay obviously, and I’ve switched to ikon now for the 3rd year in a row. Epic northeast is really a great value, but the only mountain I miss is Stowe, which I’ll still do at least a one day pass. I like the western ikon spots better and I justify the northeast by: Windam over Hunter Stratton over mt snow Killington over okemo Plus a day or two at sugarbush and the option of the big two Maine resorts. The one I still want to get to not on the big passes is saddleback. Constantly hear good things about the glades there. .