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are you aboard tip's pattern change/reshuffle train going into thanksgiving week?

As long as I can shovel fake snow, and watch the snow guns pile it up in fake cold, it can be as imaginary as it wants. .

Your rise from the ashes of a former weenie when this winter over performs is going to be fun to watch.

I saw a Dew of 21 at 1800' with temp of 32 at the jay base a few hours ago and figured it was dry all the way up....100 percent wrong. Good to hear...put something down at the base tonight that can last and hit a nice window Thanksgiving week and you guys will be good for opening. I would never sleep if I could watch a snow making system at home.

No winter..new normal. .

Fake is an overrated term…still can freeze pipes and feel cold as balls. Blasting out the snow at those temps..dry too, so wet bulbs in the low teens up there? .

They are actually opening tmrw to season passholders. They open on the north ridge; probably rime and reason with the peak walkway, though they are blowing great northern, so maybe only a one way walk this year. Superstar will stay closed until after the world cup (unless something changed from previous years) and then it usually takes them a week after to chop it up from the icy world cup surface. They don't go ttb for a bit, then usually move to snowdon.

That would be great timing to start some actual winter weather...now, can you give us the "what could go wrong" for that time period?

Coating down to 1800’ at jay. Looks like good snow making temps all across vt and nh by noon. .

Base is 1500 right? That extra 500 feet probably helps jay and killington plus you guys open with 2000 verts. What would get you there? A 72 hour window with wet bulbs in the teens? .

As warm as it’s been, are you guys really behind at all? Seems jay is right about where they normally would be for a thanksgiving open and def some favorable temps mid week again. Killington is late, but besides them, it really doesn’t look like anyone will have issues with opening by normal dates, or within a week. .

There have been quite a few runs with something...though 3 feet is probably asking a little too much. Temps look like they are coming back to earth a bit and storms starting to pop, so something positive in a month of shit so far. At the very least, there's legit snowmaking windows.

There's a difference between a met saying it doesn't look favorable going into December and things like "this year will be a repeat of last year" "I wonder if we don't get a frost til Xmas" "this is the new normal" "30 degrees isn't a freeze" "NNE used to always be white in early October" etc. Just like there has to be pushback against the wish casting for snow, I give Wolfie credit for pushing back against some of the dumb shit, funny as it may be sometimes.

yep, I would agree...and I think there was a year recently where they actually didn't make the depth check a week prior, but got the wink wink, because there was an ideal window a day or two away where they were sure they would make it.

Copper…at least it’s snowing somewhere. Think they open this week. .

They could be blowing up top for sure this weekend…and in past years they would have…late thanksgiving will help, but i would be nervous. .

As long as 81 is not 80s next time you scream torch, it makes complete sense. .

No argument…felt good hiking today though hearing that jet engine sound roaring away in the background. .

They are probably 2800’ and up..I’m sure there’s a marketing aspect to it, but they might get 36 hours to put a couple piles together that make it through the next warm up. I’m just really surprised killington, with a lift that runs 3400-3900’ and a brand that pushes earliest and latest isn’t making any effort. I get it for you guys; you’re opening date is you’re opening date and there’s a lot of warmth between now and then. .

Don’t see jay go after it before killington very often… .

31, snow flurries…guns blasting up top.. .

But we need to be as dramatic as possible...

great point. there's still snow on the ground even this morning, so I don't believe the ground temp reasoning. I don't fault them for not going for it with the forecast, but I'd like to know if the snowmaking pond temps and ground temps are a real thing or just a bs excuse. I don't think anyone would fault them with the forecast, but I'm not a fan of bs if that's the case...though I could be 100 percent wrong.

Killington cited "snowmaking pond temperatures" and "ground temperatures" as one of the reasons they aren't making snow yet on their website. I didn't know that was a thing...I kinda don't buy the ground temperature reasoning. If it was in the teens on that north ridge last night and tonight like it was/is, I find it hard to believe snow being blown into single digit wetbulbs would have an issue with ground temps...but the snowmaking pond temp sounds plausible I guess?? I think if they wanted to open those north ridge trails, they could....not saying it's a smart business decision nor would I expect it, with the impending warmth.

Is "mild down" the new official term for cool down? Is it that even in an incredibly warm period, we can never cool down, because, you know, everything just sucks? I thought you were back?