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One of those deals where the Euro caves?

Are we losing it?

Brutal

Tomorrow will be unseasonably cold. There is potential for New York City's Central Park to experience its first freeze of 2025 tomorrow morning. The 1991-2020 normal first date is November 21. The 1961-1990 baseline was November 11. Last winter's first freeze occurred on November 30. Saturday and Sunday will see a snowstorm blanket parts of the Great Lakes Region. Chicago and Milwaukee could see 6"-12" of snow. Detroit could pick up 4"-8". Toronto could see 3"-6". Sunday and Monday will be somewhat milder. Showers are possible on Monday as a cold front moves across the region. Generally colder than normal conditions could then continue into or through the second week of December. Severe cold appears unlikely through at least the first 10 days of December. Nevertheless, December 1-10 will be a solidly colder than normal period. Moreover, a storm could affect the region on Tuesday into Wednesday, bringing 0.50"-1.50" precipitation to the region. There is a distinct possibility that New York City could see its first measurable snowfall of the season. Interior sections have the highest probability of seeing accumulations of snow. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.7°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.7°C for the week centered around November 12. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.16°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.65°C. La Niña conditions will likely continue through at least mid-winter. The SOI was -3.12 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.081 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 99% probability that New York City will have a cooler than normal November (1991-2020 normal). November will likely finish with a mean temperature near 47.2° (0.8° below normal). Supplemental Information: The projected mean would be 0.5° below the 1981-2010 normal monthly value.

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That's funny. All my local forecasts for amounts, which, granted, is WAY to early to put out amounts. Is over 6". My point is. Where do you get this amazing info? Seeing a raging rainstorm well N&W of NYC, and into New England? Please elaborate your brilliance in weather forecasting.

This is our moment

pretenders. signed, a lowly falcons fan.

MKX went up to 8-13 Inches. Kind of shocked, actually.

High of 41, coldest so far of season

If this turns out to be right, then I guess the GFS could be crowned King for the first winter storm of the season for us. It seems like the other three models, Euro, Canadian, an icon all seem to be in a similar place. I'm thinking by tomorrow or Sunday we'll have a very clear picture, maybe .....

Had a couple rounds of flurries here this afternoon.

GFS has been consistently wrong before too. I’m in the way overdone camp. But if this was years ago it would be a sheared POS that would eventually catch on while the other models tickle NW as we got deeper into NAM range.

Blizzard conditions at times this evening.

There was a heavier snow shower in the Harriman, NY area this afternoon.

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Scott and Son lol.

Lol Philly fans are so spoiled

Greta does, down on the NYC forum. Got a met tag too.

But it’s not even that potent. Just blows up the low.

I feel like it's been the most consistent whereas the Euro changes with the wind. Idk, weird to consider the GFS possibly leading the way on this but I would say climo argues for a track similar to what it's showing.

Bears

it’s just way more consolidated with the vort as it moves through the Plains and Midwest

Let’s move it into the storm thread now so we don’t have the same disco in 2 spots.

Coating?