ChescoWx Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 "That is a clear sign of a major station change, probably at Morgantown." That would be incorrect Charlie no station changes took place at all during the period that temperatures were reported by the NWS Coop observer. There were some moves after those temperature obs ended and they moved to just precip and snow obs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 20 hours ago, ChescoWx said: "That is a clear sign of a major station change, probably at Morgantown." That would be incorrect Charlie no station changes took place at all during the period that temperatures were reported by the NWS Coop observer. There were some moves after those temperature obs ended and they moved to just precip and snow obs. Raw data determines whether there was a station change not NCDC documentation, which can be incomplete. The 2F cooling of Morgantown relative to Coatesville is clearly a station change of some kind. The Morgantown site was didn't operate for 5 months in the summer of 1966, station changes in Chester County that I have investigated usually coincided with station shutdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted Thursday at 05:41 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 05:41 PM As per the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) Current climate normals are calculated using the past 3 complete decades and recalculated every 10 years. So, I went back and calculated what was normal for the last 10 climate normal periods specifically for Chester County PA. The below show what the climate normals were for the 10 years following each calculation with the earliest being 1901-1930 normals and the latest being our current climate normal period of 1991-2020. Averages in red are the warmest and blue the coolest across those periods. Of note our warmest climate normal period was 1931-1960 and our coolest period was 1961-1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted Sunday at 07:08 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 07:08 PM I split our weather database almost down the middle to compare how our climate here in Chester County has changed compared to the first 66 years of climate data (1893-1959) vs. the last 67 years of data (1960-2025). Of note 7 months have trended cooler - 3 have trended warmer and 2 have remained about the same. Overall, on an annual basis we have trended cooler by 0.2 degrees during the latest period of record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted 22 hours ago Author Share Posted 22 hours ago Well if AI says it's so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted 21 hours ago Author Share Posted 21 hours ago Due to multiple requests below for comparison I have added the recast National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) temperature data that includes the chilling adjustments to the older data. That chart is now below the actual raw data. I split our weather database almost down the middle to compare how our climate here in Chester County has changed compared to the first 66 years of climate data (1893-1959) vs. the last 67 years of data (1960-2025). With the actual data we see that 7 of our months have trended cooler - 3 have trended warmer and 2 have remained about the same. Overall, on an annual basis the actual raw data has trended cooler by 0.2 degrees during our most recent half of climate data 1960-2025. However, once NCEI applies their adjustments it paints a very different picture. We see clear warming in each and every month during our more recent climate history from 1960-2025. This aligns well with the expected warming narrative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago You can't tell by personal observations, of say snow, that things are progressing in a direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago 59 minutes ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: You can't tell by personal observations, of say snow, that things are progressing in a direction? Truth! Only long running climate data works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 16 hours ago, ChescoWx said: Due to multiple requests below for comparison I have added the recast National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI) temperature data that includes the chilling adjustments to the older data. That chart is now below the actual raw data. I split our weather database almost down the middle to compare how our climate here in Chester County has changed compared to the first 66 years of climate data (1893-1959) vs. the last 67 years of data (1960-2025). With the actual data we see that 7 of our months have trended cooler - 3 have trended warmer and 2 have remained about the same. Overall, on an annual basis the actual raw data has trended cooler by 0.2 degrees during our most recent half of climate data 1960-2025. However, once NCEI applies their adjustments it paints a very different picture. We see clear warming in each and every month during our more recent climate history from 1960-2025. This aligns well with the expected warming narrative. Very important to remove the station changes in Chester county. The county stations moved frequently and bigger changes were cooling. The station population has cooled with time mainly due a shift from towns to more rural sites. Our older stations are warmer than the county as a whole, particularly in the 1930-48 period when Phoenixville was much warmer than other local stations on summer afternoons; and, West Chester and Coatesville were in built-up towns. I can match NCEI perfectly by; 1) excluding the 3 big station moves: Coatesville in 1946+48, Phoenixville in 1948 and West Chester in 1970; and, by removing the temperature difference between stations by taking station anomalies to a common period. Raw data without the contamination of station changes. The chart below shows that NCEI has met their objective of taking out station changes to reveal the weather and climate signal in the raw data. Of course, if you leave in all the station changes you won't match NCEI or any other scientific analysis. This thread is a strawman based on bad analysis and confirmation bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago To state it better - The above chart Charlie highlights shows that NCEI has met their objective of taking out actual raw station data to alter the data to hide the cyclical pattern in the raw data. Of course, if you leave in all the station changes you won't match the revised/altered NCEI or any other "scientific" analysis. The above thread and data produced by chescowx consistently uses certified NWS actual data and ensures it is not influenced by bad analysis or exhibits any of the clear confirmation bias that underscores the altered data often used to support climate alarmism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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