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34 minutes ago, stormtracker said:

Look, yall can be quiet all you want, but imma ride the NAM until it goes off a cliff.   2-4 inches for the area with some kind of dirty lollipop N and W.   How can it be wrong?  It's at 84 hours.  Game on

This is fun now that three in two weeks may evolve from zero to hero!!

1 hour ago, pazzo83 said:

The main issue with DCA is being right on the river - but that can keep it a degree or two cooler than the rest of the city just as much as it might keep it warmer.  The optimal site is probably like the White House or some place in Dupont/Columbia Heights.

The river has frozen and the outcome the same.  It so rare that it’s hard to provide data. 
camp Springs Andrew’s is 10 miles east of DC and in a similar setting and DCA is 25 and Camp Springs  15.  That’s an artificial restraint on DCA  ability to radiate. Winds homogenize things so the issue is when winds are light what is capping radiation? I agree it’s not comparable to IAD but its close to BWI and should not be 7-12 degrees milder in the repeated  current circumstances that it is.

some of  our DC observers location may also have their thermometers totally surrounded by buildings, roads etc . DCA problems are strange considering it is NOT surrounded by extensive development on All sides 

24 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

How might this affect Lamar's legacy?

If Reid  keeps him under 50 for rushing,  they are in trouble 

34 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

i live in the highest part of DC and we are usually within one or two degrees, even at night.

Your measuring  location as well may have issues 

1 hour ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

DCA is probably not even representative of most of DC

DCA matches perfectly with downtown DC where roads, sidewalks, buildings abound and no open grassy areas.  However DCA IS surrounded by open space and parkland to north east and south. A lightly traveled parkway is slightly to the west.  Nearby to the west is developed like  downtown DC. And the facility itself.  It’s also an FAA facility so their forte is not meteorologic records but rather in the moment plane safety. 

5 hours ago, Weather Will said:

WB Day 11 GFS.... parade of storms with temps cooling ahead of schedule.... buckle up!!!!!

Whether it’s in advance, or in situ., DC always does better with earlier rather than later. 

2 hours ago, GramaxRefugee said:

Feb 2015 , -28 departure on 20th. 4 days of -24/-25. BWI

edit: Sorry; I see you mentioned that; (well, sorta)

Is that the time BWI had a high of 17 four days in a row?

1 hour ago, stormtracker said:

If this happens it's going to be the Stormtracker-Man storm.

It’s the third  in a short period of time and has evolved  into good after not looking good mostly 

24 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

and to think people are punting the rest of the winter. fucking insane

gotta suck to be that jaded

The party that nailed this is the party who steadfastly maintained from November into December that we should not expect winter weather until mid January.  Step forward and identify and receive  your congratulations 

17 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

and to think people are punting the rest of the winter. fucking insane

gotta suck to be that jaded

Some punted end of  Dec.  Most here are sincere but for a few this is their myopic, emotional deformities dumping ground. It’s chilling to think what that attitude does to those they have dominion over. 

7 minutes ago, Ji said:

we have had like 11 events this winter...2 have snowed lol....we are not a snowtown

Pattern change dim bulb depresso

18 minutes ago, Ji said:

Too bad this year hasn’t hasn’t had that

The last two events certainly did. The depresso act grows Real Old. 

2 hours ago, NorthArlington101 said:

it just wants to snow!

Snowing everytime it possibly could was  theme of 86-87 and to lesser degree late Jan into Feb 95.  Both in my winter outlook analogs 

3 hours ago, Daniel Boone said:

Remember it well. Post the pic if you can. 

It’s somewhere. Polaroid Swinger  I think.

Lost a lot . Bare spots showed up and snowboard and full shade at 3.5. It’s slick in few full shade spots.evenb though temp not freezing.   I guess because ground so cold?

1 hour ago, psuhoffman said:

maybe we should...but often it belongs here since history is how we predict the future. What's happened during past similar patterns is very pertinent to the discussions here about upcoming pattern expectations.  

I have a hand written winter weather diary from 1965  until I stopped in 2015.

i would like to publish it maybe or find some way to share copies of it.  There are some staggering hourlies that we just rarely have put together in last 25 years. 
 

One  excetpt  from Blizzard  of 66 is “…19 degrees ant 2  and just snowed 3” in last 2 hours so up to 10” and dad says radio said winds are 40 mph. I can’t see dad standing by the lamppost…”

1 hour ago, Daniel Boone said:

Those late 70's Winter's were something to have witnessed for us old timer's Howard. Without Pic's, Video's etc..many wouldn't believe how incredible they were.

Remember in 1979 when the ocean froze along OC.?  Took a while to figure out but extreme cold and very heavy snow allowed slush to accumulate and it froze. It’s also believed  that very strong n-nne winds pushed similar ice and snow formation from out of Delaware Bay and down to OC coastline. I’ve got pics of me about 150 feet into the frozen mass and at that point I began to feel something different under my feet so headed back in. 

Just now, AU74 said:

Yep. Everything froze solid including the bay. During that cold snap, my brother and some friends ice skated along the Patuxent River from just below Brighton Dam to Rocky Gorge just below Route 29. 

Cars were on South River where it exits into the bay.  You could not tell where the snow covered land ended and the frozen snow covered water began. I think all but the channel maxed out over a foot thick of ice. 

28 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

I disagree with his attack on others. I agree with the one point that the bar this winter is way higher than just trying to hit climo. That was the only part I was trying to comment on. 

Hope you get better snd that children did not get it.  Our grandchildren had a nasty stomach big  and I got that last week for 5 days. I may have been a tad surly then. 

I shoveled the  fully shaded slate patio and after I got all the snow off, the slush film  refroze  with a  43F air temp!!   Cold cold nights !

3 minutes ago, weatherbook said:

1977 was impressive because snow was on the ground at DCA for 24 consecutive days from three back-to-back snowstorms in early January that only dropped a total of 8.7" of snow. The snow didn't melt for weeks.  However, in 1961, there were 30 consecutive days of snow cover at DCA in late January and early February from six snowstorms that dropped 31.6" of snow throughout that period.  The winter of 1960-61 also had 16 consecutive days of snow cover at DCA in mid-to-late December which included a white Christmas.  What a great winter!

Great stuff

Thanks 

42 minutes ago, dallen7908 said:

Different climate up your way; the longest recorded stretch with snow on the ground in DC is 29 days  from Jan 20 to Feb 17, 1961

I think in 1977 it went below freezing for like 37 consecutive days 

Low of 23 here 

clouds thwarting the melt off

Currently 37

2-3” full sun

3-4” partial shade

5” full shade 

1/21/24 update

i thought about asking around Jan 1 that might I be off by +2 for DJF. I had Dec +1 and it was 2 too low so would my -2 for JF turn out as 0. Zero is no torch for JF so decent snow still a good idea. Just past halfway point and my snowfall ideas are halfway there. 
This  was a great cold and snowy 9/10 days. I’m rooting for more!

Fell back below freezing at 8:30 so that was the longest time above freezing here in a week. 
31 now

so crap  weather starts and maybe something Sunday and then more crap  and by 2/6 we are back in business?