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As the most vulnerable pass away and the rest of the population begins to build immunity, we'll probably see less and less flare ups in places that have already been hard hit. That's generally how viruses work. Meanwhile, we can probably start discussing the new baseline of unemployment being at less double pre-virus numbers

I had to look up what that is. What industry are you in?

No for-profit business in America hires people just to give them jobs. You hire people so your operation has needed labor and people in place to operate at maximum profit potential. Yes, profit is the driver of a capitalist system. I wish we could return to 1950s prosperity, but that had far more to do with our lack of rebuilding necessary after the war. Global competition just wasn't there.

It's a mess. The investigations into hospitals, officials and patients will be ongoing for years. The risk assessment for every virus will be weighed and you bet your butt the threshold will be higher.

Greedy? Because someone wants to make a living on their own and not work for someone else? Jeez.

That's capitalism, the moment you let your foot off the gas your competition will be right there to fill that gap you give them. Most businesses expand so they can weather the lean years, but it's all about timing. Did you just finish paying on capital improvements or did you just start? All of this factors into surviving and much of it is luck or anticipating correctly. This is the first forced business closure since WW2 or the spanish flu? Lol.... you'd be laughed at for thinking this was on the horizon a year ago.

If they could make the same cash with less staff, they wouldn't waste money on payroll in a normal scenario.

I'm so tired of people sticking phones in each other's faces. I wish someone would invent some sort of Faraday cage that blocks cameras.

Might as well just prepare to write each business owner in America a sizable check, because the operating expense to keep the place open will be a net loss. Most businesses operate just a hair over break even.

But it's counted as a covid hospitalization. This only matters if you're trying to determine how often the virus leads to symptoms requiring hospitalization.

Imagine going through that with NO AC. Growing up I never had AC until around 2001. Summer lasted forever. I still have fond memories of summer being HOT and the fact that I had no way to escape it. Sleeping on the floor at my grandmother's farm house, fan blowing on me and hearing T-storms rumble almost every night. Now, I have AC and T-storms are rare as heck these days. It was like another world.

It just feels like a hair dryer blowing on you when you sit in front of a fan. I do prefer dry heat, especially in my business with freezers and such. Operating expenses are lower with low humidity and less condensation on equipment.

The biggest thing that stuck out to me from the video above is the drastic contrast in hair between the two men. One had zero and the other had the best hair in the western hemisphere.

I wonder if there is data on people getting numerous tests. I heard some people have been tested 20 times or more.

True.

You test everyone tomorrow and it would probably pop 50M+. Would that actually scare you considering deaths are still nowhere near where we were?

Yup, the safe space. Imagine wanting to discuss politics in a place that bans one entire side of the political spectrum and then actually continuing to post there. Even our moderator can't post there. Lol

Always with the insults. That's how these threads always end up getting shut down.

You're not going to avoid getting this anyhow. The hope is to not overload the hospitals with symptomatic people. I mean we could make leaving home illegal and lock everything down for a year.... that's going to destroy the economy for decades.

Who out there thinks only old people can catch it? It's mainly older people who are dying. That's not in dispute.

I use a TON of dry ice with my business. With that said, I have a co2 meter that I keep in the building with the dry ice and I have been in 5,000 ppm co2 for extended times. You usually have trouble catching your breathe and get fatigued. I'm not weighing in on mask induced co2 issues, just clarifying what symptoms are more common.

Shocked to see this.... I feel like one lucky SOB now. Apparently I'm in that 0.4% at the bottom. We're killing it. There really aren't many small business owners in retail food these days, that has to be the explanation for it.

20% of businesses go out in their first year. We're going to blow past that at this rate. Here's the thing, that $600 per week and PPP is giving you a false sense of where we are right now. Quite a few people (a sh-t ton) have MORE money staying home right now, so every open business has a larger pool of customers to sell to. That's going to end and many of those businesses that gave those people eligibility for the unemployment won't be there. The real pain hasn't even started yet.

Let's just quadruple our debt so that obese 85 year old's get another few weeks at life. We can all work for Amazon and Walmart when this is all over. You'll be an excellent door greeter in our new economy.

Right now, we're probably looking at a possibility that completely puts end to all small owned restaurants, bowling allies, bars, gyms,...etc. 100,000 small businesses are closed for good as of May 1st! https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/longevity/497519-more-than-100000-small-businesses-have-permanently