buckeye

Yet another indicator of this miserable winter, Last year on this date, the "Let's Talk Winter" thread was 47 pages long Gotta admit, I kinda miss talking to the Ohio gang about incoming ...

How bad is this dumpster fire of a winter? Even the clippers are drippers

Latitude is our excuse.....what's yours?

what an awesome winter...... it takes .7 inches qpf to get a car topper

It's all good.... I understand you were talking to canuck. I tend to get a bit "trollie" when winter gets this bleak. I need a snow storm....or a snickers

Eastern OH might do 'ok', (relatively speaking of course). Once the low dies over us and redevelops further east they might score a little.

My apologies, I missed the part where you were only referring to Michiganders, must of overlooked it in your post. Thanks Bo, not much else to do here during this garbage winter except a little venting. Oh well, here's to the incoming rock'n FEB!!!!

I almost forgot... Detroit 6-8"

lol...i'm calm This is what I objected to: However, some people act like there's been no Winter at all, Whose acting? And what about that is referring to his back yard? Relatively speaking for many of us....this winter has sucked. Considering that comment came from someone who has won the lottery twice so far in an otherwise dismal winter....it came off a bit....well...

cold rain final call

Are you kidding? Maybe that's because SOME people have had no winter at all.... Seriously, you have been incredibly lucky. Look at the two storms that have made up 90% of your snowfall. One was a freak mid November record-setter and the other was a garbage storm that rode to your nw with a perfectly timed combination of WAA and a departing antecedent HP that had only been around for like a day to begin with. Detroit's location in that whole mess was about as perfect as you could ask in that set up. Your area was literally an island of winterstorm warnings surrounded by a sea of winter weather advisories. You are above normal snowfall but it's not because it's been a good winter pattern. Aren't you always saying that clippers are your bread and butter in a typical good winter? How much clipper snow have you received?

When the months of December and January are a dumpster fire....the winter WILL suck regardless of what percentage of met winter we are through. It would take a FEB '10 combined with a March '08 to salvage the winter at this point.

I'm going with an early Feb '98 analog storm. Weird cut off with a pocket of cold air where it does something stupid like snow in Memphis and rain in Indy.

Speaking of Cincy futility.....

....Never has Cincinnati had gone through a January without any snow since records began in 1872. If I lived in Cincy I'd be rooting for either a big dog or zilch....be a shame to ruin such an impressive futility record on a car topper.

Up to a couple of weeks ago, (although I was clearly not optimistic for a good winter), I at least felt we would probably get enough chances to scrape ourselves close to normal by early April. That hope is 100% gone and I think this could very well turn into a sub 12" winter. It now 'officially' has that feeling. I'm starting to think we might go from an above normal Feb to an all out Morch, (which I'd be fine with at this point). I know I bring up teleconnection indices a lot....but the truth is, they rarely let you down in spite of whatever the LR models are spitting out or Bustardi-style mets are trying to tell us using kelvin waves, strat warming, or the latest term of winter, (the Indian Ocean Dipole) lol. Look at the AO, NAO, PNA, EPO, and MJO....especially the MJO and EPO and those are way more telling as far as I'm concerned. That being said, the teleconnections are almost as bad as they can be. The AO, EPO, and NAO are all heading more positive than they currently are. The MJO is now going from a brief trip thru6 into 7 and then into the COD with overwhelming agreement of exiting the COD into the warm phases. I do think as we go through 7 late week, there is hope for another junk storm, maybe the one that is currently progged to be way north.....after that, it's back to garbageville and probably for most of the remaining winter.

Sorry, I can't help myself. It's kinda like spiking the punch bowl at a real boring party.

Tell us what you really think, no need to hold back here

AKA misery loves company. I concur.

this afternoon he made a post using January '78 as an example of a January that in spite of being remembered as a severe winter month, featured several warm/rain storms in the east. so now i'm excited....we are in the midst of January'78....we just don't know it yet!!!!!!

Tomorrow night I'll pull my bed close to the window so I can listen to the 30 minutes of pinging. I may even bring a flashlight that I can press to the window and shine into the darkness to illuminate the falling pellets. Then I'll close my eyes tightly as I fall asleep imagining that it's really winter. #new_winter_reality

I think that's right. All through December he was calling for the potential of an all-time coldest January for much of the east. Ended up being a record high month

This is where you need to refer to THE METEROLOGICAL CYA HANDBOOK by Joe Bastardi Chapter 2 : What to say when the cold never comes pg 127: "....I still nailed the pattern at 500mb!"

brutal....

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