Concerning the Nam 12, I think it has to be discounted right now after seeing several other suites 18Z runs....with the caveat that it has done this sometimes in the past where it led the way early. If it had been pursuing this line of reasoning the entire time, I would feel better defending it but for now if I were forecasting for the LSV I would be Max 2-4 except fairly far north of Harrisburg. Almost nothing down my way being too far south and west for much coastal help.