Racial comment? Wow, good to see you're a classy guy. People like you are the bane of the earth, tread carefully or society will chew you up and spit you out.
Yeah somewhere around 13-14 seems right..I just find it annoying when people exaggerate totals. 17"? No way, and even worse there was a 20" report from Armonk, theres no way they got that much.