John1122

The GFS says don't sell winter down the river yet. The Canadian is somewhat similar but weaker. The ICON has the same system but warmer. The Euro is a cutter. The only model that cuts the storm.

Kudos to the RGEM/HRRR they nailed the 1-2 inch snow amounts in my area when the NAM was only showing them in NETN/SWVA. The RGEM is very good with northern stream/clipper type disturbances.

There's been lightning associated with the snow showers in Kentucky. The area in NW Kentucky looks like it should clip a good portion of the Eastern Valley areas. 

MRX expanded the WWA for all of NE Tennessee. Kinda expected it back my way as well but they apparently think I'm too far West. JKL expanded their WWA to the county north and the county northwest of me. 

The angle and origin of the  snow on the way favors SEKY and SWVA but it looks far enough west to hit back to my area on radar. It may bend a bit before it can though. The NAM has it angling north of me, the RGEM has my area in 1-2 inches. The HRRR is in line with the RGEM and hits my area with 1-2 inches as well. 

Over the next few days we may still see some energy rotating through the trough in the East, probably producing snow showers at times in the Eastern forum areas. I don't expect much more than a roof top duster but sometimes these March snow showers can be very convective and cause whiteout driving conditions for 10 or 15 minute periods.  Not to say these showers will produce that but they are something to look at in a lost winter season for us in the Eastern Valley.  

The CPC 8-14 day outlook favors BN for the NE Valley,  near normal for the remainder, above normal just to our south along the Gulf Coast. This may set up a battle ground, energy is there. AN precip is favored over the entire forum area. 

It's looking like a cold spring, technically it already is since meteorological spring starts March 1st. Will we continue the trend of below average severe weather seasons? These threads in warm months don't see the activity that the winter thread does, so I figured this would handle summer as well. I guess because summer is normally benign in our part of the world outside the occasional heatwave, pop up storm or rare tropical remnant. 

Two of my nieces had went to visit family in Lawrenceburg that day, they were 5 and 7 years old. The tornado missed them by about 250 yards. They still have vivid memories and hate thunderstorms.

I'm hoping to pull out of the Nina unless we can get a -NAO in the heart of winter (it has to return at some point, it's been 7 or 8 years). That's when it seems to work. -EPO + Nina = cold desert. +EPO +NAO + Nina = soaking blowtorch.

-EPO + Nino = snowglobe, especially 40 and north even with AN temps. 

-EPO + -NAO + Nino may set records.

The common theme to March snows looked to be the Pacific being favorable.  It appeared that a weakening -EPO was a key driver. A strong one is really cold but really dry. 

3-10-51 - It was below normal for the next week. It snowed 3 of those days, 2 inches total.

3-28-51 - It was below normal for a few days and there was a major rain event on 4-2, 1.5 inches of rain.

3-27-52 - The first week of April was below normal for the most part with a trace of snow and .3 inches of rain. April 5th and 6th were in the 40s/lower 30s with snow showers.

3-12-54 - Temps were below normal 8 of the next 10 days but mostly dry. Big warm up and rain days 11-14.

3-6-58 - Lost record but looking at CSV AND London, it got really cold for the rest of the month. There were 8 days of snowy weather after that. 2 1 inch snows, a 1/2 inch snow and 4 dustings. No temp above 60 the whole month.

3-21-58 See above. Major rain event 3/30.

3-1-62 (almost the whole month lower than -1.0) - 2 inches of snow on 3/5-6. Rain/Snow mix storm on 3-8/9 covered the ground with snow at the start and finish of a .8 inch rain event. Several big rainers, Temps were bn most of the month but not as cold as 1958.

3-6-69 - As mentioned prior, 3 inches of snow on March 6th, 5.5 inches on March 9th. Temps BN until the 18th. Two days the temps were -20+ below normal.

3-30-70 - Huge rainstorm April 1st and 2nd, almost 3 inches of rain. BN temps for the next week.

3-30-71 - Temps below normal, large rain event April 1st. Heavy wet snow event April 6th-7th, 3.5 inches of snow from .8 liquid.

3-28-75 - Turned cold, 1st week of April had 4 straight nights in the 20s. Trace of snowfall on April 3rd. No major storms.

3-24-77 - 10 straight days of very warm temps. Very rainy. 10 inches between 3/28 and 4/4.

3-18-79 - cold snap 25-28, snow showers each day that coated the ground.  Massive rain event April 1-4, 4 inches of rain.

3-20-80 - Temps were a roller coaster between 9 BN and 9 AN. Rained 4.5 inches on 3/20, .7 3/24 and 1.25 3/28.

3-18-81 -  Temps were well BN for the next 8 days. Snow showers 18-20th with dustings. Rain storm with .6 inches of rain the 22nd that ended as snow showers into the 23rd.

3-26-81 - Temps got warm, was 81 3/31, rain event 3/30 .75 inches.

3-1-2001  - Rain event on the 4th, .5 inches, ended as snow showers into the 5th and 6th with BN temps for 5 days.

3-11-2005 - Rain event 13th .30, wet snow showers the 16th and 17th that covered the ground at times. BN temps for several days.

3-1-06 - BN temps all but one day of the next week, when it warmed up and rained .5 inches 3/7-8. Snow showery weather  1st-3rd.

3-10-2010 - 1 inch of rain 3/11-12 with a brief cool down the following 4 days.

3-24-2011 - 35 degree temp drop from 3/22 with highs as low as the upper 30s by 3/31. .45 inches of rain 3/26, snow showers on the 27th, .35 rain the 28th, .62 rain the 30th, snow showers the 31st 

3-21-2013 - Temps in the 70s 3/16, highs in the 30s, lows in the 10s by 3/21 with snow showers, large rain event .80 3/24.

It was 10-15 degrees below normal in Febuary/March 1960 and this happened. It was gasoline on a fire.

27 minutes ago, tnweathernut said:

That map I posted for 1960 doesn't really have any reports from your area, but if you guessed based on nearby reports that would have put you in the 30-35" range.  I am guessing you were probably higher than that though.....?

That's close, 39 inches in March of 1960. February was huge too, with 25 inches. 

I'm going to count large snow events for March as more than 3 inches and keep in mind that early reports are at 2500 feet or so in elevation.

March 15, 1916 4 inches

March 17 1917 5 inches

March 14 1924 4 inches

March 6 1926 7.5 inches

March 1 1927 12 inches

March 17 1928 4 inches

March 10 1934 3 inches

March 12 1935 3.5 inches

March 17 1935 9 inches

March 24 1940 8 inches

March 2 1942 14.5 inches

March 21 1943 7.5 inches

March 1 1954 4 inches - 10 inches on the ground, it snowed 6 inches the previous day.

Housefire caused loss of data from 1955-1958

March of 1960 is well known. It snowed every day except 2 of the first 20 days of the month. 

March 20 1965 3.5 inches

March 6 1969 3 inches

March 9 1969 5.5 inches

March 15 1970 3 inches

March 25 1971 3.5 inches

March 10 1975 4 inches

March 17 1978 3 inches

March 1-2 1980 5.5 inches w subzero cold.

March snows of 3+ became less common in the 1980s into 1992. There were 1 to 2.5 inch events in 1981-85 and of course the 12 inch event in April of 1987, there was also a 2.5 inch snow in April of 1997, going off memory here as I've not been looking at April.

March 12-13 1993, Well know as any event ever.

March 8 1995 4.5 inches

March 19-20 1996 5.5 inches

March 9-12 1998 it snowed an inch each day but never accumulated to more than 3 inches. 

March 16-17 2006 4 inches

The 2000s didn't produce much in March. Most years nearly nothing. The 2010s have rebounded with some big winter events though. 2014 and 2015 had major snow events for the western areas that were ice storms imby. It even snowed mid March last year in the Southern Valley after that blow torch winter.

The WATE guys did miss big time on snow totals. Thursday night, the day before the blizzard started, Hinkin said "you're hearing these wild snow totals thrown around, but folks, it's March and that's not happening.' He forecast 6 inches for the Valley areas and 12 inches for the mountains at that time.  I actually had a bet with my uncle, who'd watched Hinkin and didn't believe we'd get more than 10 inches.

This is one of my 3 or 4 most clear weather memories. I can still remember being outside around 2 pm Friday and it started snowing here. It was probably in the mid 30s at the time. I drove to town around 4 and it was snowing hard but the road and ground were still fairly warm so it wasn't sticking. I had ordered a pizza and they messed it up so I had to wait for another one. It was really coming down as I drove back home. The ground was starting to get white in town at around 1100-1200 feet. As I climbed towards the house, as is often the case the accumulation got thicker and thicker. I had 2 inches on the ground already when I arrived home. It was still raining over a good portion of the central valley through that evening per the Knoxville TV stations, there wasn't a drop of rain for the entire event here. It had snowed 5 inches by midnight at my house. But it wasn't snowing particularly hard at that point and I kept being worried that the forecast wasn't going to come to pass. 

I woke up at 8 am the next morning to howling winds and it looked like we were in a thick fog. It was 21 degrees, winds were around 35 mph with higher gusts. I found a wind sheltered area and took 3 measurements. There was as closely as I could figure, 11 inches of snow on the ground. It had snowed 6 more inches basically in the 8 hours since midnight. Between 8 and 11 am it snowed 11 more inches. The heaviest sustained snow I've ever seen. It snowed and blowed the rest of the afternoon but not as heavily as that 3 hour span. Oddly, later that night around 1 am after the snow had seemingly ended, we had a burst of heavy snow that just absolutely poured down for about 30 minutes and added 1 inch or so to my total. I assume it was flow related. I was well over 2 feet by the time it was over and my cousins 1000 feet above me were close to 3 feet. I had a 1977 F-150 with 33 inch tires. It snowed the bed of the truck completely full, which is 21 inches deep, and then it just blew the snow off that would have piled up over the bed. I drove it the next day and the front bumper of my truck was plowing snow. 

I am forever pissed at the local paper who reported that the area only received 12 inches of snow. They were never known for having the best reporters. They did mention that the higher mountain areas received 36 inches of snow. I still have that paper as well as one from Lake City who more accurately reported 18-24+ inch totals in the valley areas. The drifts were amazing, some were 15 feet deep and 6 foot drifts were common.  There's a letter to the editor in one of them from a person who moved here from Ohio and talked about never seeing anything like this up there. Their power went out and they mentioned crossing HWY 63 in Eastern Campbell County in neck deep drifts because their neighbor came to check on them and then invited them to stay in their wood heated home until power was restored. Also a gesture she wasn't used to per her letter.

Wrong thread.

I've built a smokehouse before. We had one big enough to hang a dozen hogs at once in at once time.  Wasn't the most fancy thing in the world, my grandfather was the lead architect. Looked like something you'd have seen in 1925 in the back woods. But it worked damn well.

I should have tried that. Next year I'll either fence or pee a lot in the melon patch. Maybe both.

Animals destroyed my entire melon crop. I've lost dozens of cantaloupe and watermelons to the critters.

I've not had a ripe tomato yet. The cold cold winter really made things slow here.

This is a new variety of paste tomato I tried this year, the Goldman's Italian:

 

 

I harvested the German Red garlic this weekend and planted red potatoes in it's place.

That's a good looking tomato. Mine are about silver dollar sized and quite green right now. I'm running 10 days or so behind your area.

I'm very happy with my system overall.  The hose in the second kit that I bought does have some "sprayers" that keep the bottom leaves of some plants wet and yellow.  The original kit doesn't spray at all.  Not a big deal, the system has done a great job at keeping my soil nice and wet.  It saturates a nice large area.  We'll see how the hose holds up over time.

 

 

 

Thanks for sharing photos of your stuff, it all looks great!  Love that purple cabbage.

 

 

John, how do you deal with the white fly worms on your cabbage?  I've given up on brussels, cabbage, and broccoli due to them.  Last year I tried some organic spray but it didn't really help.

On plants that don't flower, I use Seven dust. It's the only thing I ever use any pesticide on at all in my garden. Otherwise it's nearly impossible to keep them from getting eaten. Since they don't flower, I'm not hurting honey bees.

Great pics and happy gardening. I'm jealous of that weather!

We've been humid and in the 90s except for today, but they return tomorrow with mid to upper 90s possible. Gonna make me dread hoeing my stuff but I know I have to. My cabbage is done, I got it in the ground too late tbh, but I still have some 2-3 pound heads. All the warm weather plants are doing pretty well, it's rained at night two nights in a row and been rainy today. I expect a burst of growth over the next couple of days.

Oh no!  Was it the bear that was running around town?  lol

I don't think so, he was last spotted on the other side of the county.