dendrite

Found an article from WMUR interviewing someone from the Mt Washington observatory and apparently the wind chill reach -107F during that Jan 2004 cold shot while the temp was -44F. And yeah, that Whiteface -114F isn't accurate. To beat those MWN numbers you need to do it with colder temps. At a certain point stronger and stronger wind magnitude only creates a negligibly lower wind chill.

You’re not kidding.

Mt Washington had a -103F on 1/16/2004.

No AURBO from MWN last night and they had 100 mile vis for awhile.

Skylar is over. Congrats on Toby though.

Maybe 3 8-hourlies is a better compromise? 8hr workdays...8hrs of sleep...8hrs of Super Bowl pregame...it all makes sense.

Isn't that the point of making it 6hrs? To allow for some compaction? I've said it before, but I don't like penalizing 1"+/hr rates on the tail end of large, long duration storms. In LES land...if you pull 20" in 12hrs, clear, and then another 20" in 12hrs, but the depth only increases another 6"....does that mean you should have 40" or 26"? If both 12hr samples had the same rates with the same amount is it fair to report it as 20" for the first 12hrs and only 6" for the last 12hr?

I'll give Pete B credit for explaining that on the air. Some here like to call him a clown for not always weenieing out, but in this instance he "gets" it and that was a nice little shout-out to Ray.

Ray's going to have to join the Pete B fan club now. He's hanging pics of him in his old HS locker as we speak.

Yeah so your clearing times really exacerbated the measuring differences. A quick 8” in 90 mins on a clear board won’t settle much. Throw that 8” on top of 20” of already existing fluff and it’s compaction city. You should document your measurements in a blog post if you haven’t already.

So the 5pm would’ve been right before the band came back through, correct?

Desperate Snow Observers of Eastern Mass.

I noticed Ray was in the low 20s yesterday evening before the band moved back through. Then he seemed to pick up a quick 6-8” in like 90 minutes with a 5”/hr in there. Most in NH were pulling 2-4”/hr in that band so my guess was that he had recently cleared before it came through so it had minimal ability to compact which gave him the quick jump to near 30”. When were your clearing times Ray?

Never trust a name with accuweather in it

3.20” from one core would be a real pita to melt down. Maybe the guy did multiple cores, but the measuring area kept filling back in. When he had 48”/3.20” he realizdd something was off, kept the w.e., and stuck the yardstick into the ground.

The ratios are one of the first things I look at on cocorahs. When I see a 7:1 when the location was rotting under a 3”/hr deformation band I don’t even try to figure it out. Tossed like a salad.

That guy probably measured in a nook outside of his house that had roof and tree blowoff.

Let’s just totally reinvent the wheel. Create an automated sensor that measures 0.0-1.0” of snow that clears the board automatically after every 1.0”...fluff or not. Throw one on the ASOS, Kevin’s Davis, and the Maple Hollow valley. Now everyone can stay warm inside and compare how many 1” increments they received.

Storm is over dude.

Mekster and I both got hammered with NoPoles in Canada so I think that’s how I got mine.

If you want to compare real impact...just measure the snow water equivalent and go with that. 10” of 8:1 has more impact than 15” of 30:1. That gets rid of most of the method issues.

At least you had a spotter report of 28.3” in Methuen which blends your total in more.

The old school weenies that like to measure at the end of the event can come in here and tell us those couple of inches overnight never happened.

The thing is you have weenies like us clearing huge amounts of fluff every 6hrs and then the general public sticking the yardstick into the driveway at random times. When the PNS is showing a handful of reports a bit over 20” for the high range in a populated county and then a report comes in of over 30” it definitely stands out. That Wilmington 22.5” cocorahs report is just as fishy with about 3.00” of liquid reported. They reported 21.4”/2.75” for 7a-7a....I don’t think so. The other Wilmington cocorahs only reported 17.8”/1.22” for 7a-7a so the obs are all over the place. But you’re going to have trouble with people actually believing it since even the highest cocorahs reports are 20-25”. It’s simply just differing methods and that’s the nature of the beast. You’ll just have to deal with the skepticism.