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22 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA

420 PM EDT WED MAR 11 2026

 

PAC001-037-041-043-067-071-075-087-093-097-099-107-109-119-133-

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/O.EXA.KCTP.TO.A.0045.000000T0000Z-260312T0000Z/

 

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS EXTENDED TORNADO WATCH 45 TO

INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING AREAS UNTIL 8 PM EDT THIS EVENING

 

IN PENNSYLVANIA THIS WATCH INCLUDES 15 COUNTIES

 

IN CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA

 

ADAMS COLUMBIA CUMBERLAND

DAUPHIN JUNIATA LANCASTER

LEBANON MIFFLIN MONTOUR

NORTHUMBERLAND PERRY SCHUYLKILL

SNYDER UNION YORK

 

THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF BERWICK, BLOOMSBURG, CARLISLE,

DANVILLE, GETTYSBURG, HARRISBURG, HERSHEY, LANCASTER, LEBANON,

LEWISBURG, LEWISTOWN, MIFFLINTOWN, NEWPORT, POTTSVILLE,

SELINSGROVE, SHAMOKIN, SUNBURY, AND YORK.

 

Ugh. Hope it’s a false flag for us. 

6 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Ah the classics, can't go wrong there.  There's a somewhat newer place you might like, took my wife there a few weeks back.  It's call Hi-Fi, a swanky little Japanese music bar type place.  They are in the back of Issei Noodle on Orange St. and I believe they serve Issei's fare.  Anyway, hip little spot.  Very expensive cocktail menu, like abnormally so, but worth a peak.

My wife loves Dipco's long island iced tea.  Dont let your significant drink more than 2 on an empty stomach....trust me. That was ugly.

I'm down for most anything Asian, so I'll have to tell my wife about Issei.  I'll pass on the cocktail though.  Maybe she can try one. Thanks for the heads up. 

31 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Thing is, I don't recall anyone saying winter was over? I made a post about what other mets were saying from other subs but I certainly never said it was finished. Is the fat lading warming up? Absolutely she is. But while warming up, the game continues on.

Well...they either implied or wished by some....my post had nothing to do with you saying as such, but yes i did include your ex. into the convo.

Point to be made, any and all can be wrong once in a while....NO exceptions. 

2 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

This type of scenario with some back end snow has been showing on many models the last couple of days.

Maybe we see at least a little snow TV in the LSV?

beer bet says no.  Still gonna be a rude awakening....

THIS is why I try to suppress the early chatter of the "its over" crowd.  This happens almost every stinkin year. 

Wishing for sustained warmth in early March, is like wishing for 4 weeks of nice snow cover.  It can happen, and just did, but a rarity, and not something worth complaining over when it doesnt happen.  

2 hours ago, anotherman said:

looks about right.  Typical snow hole over my area of Lanco.  For that reason alone, its got a chance of verifying....lol

2 hours ago, AccuChris said:

Sweet glory today


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Like I said yesterday when the cold comes back, its gonna be a kick in the groinal region.  Verbatim I'm seeing snow Friday afternoon thru early Saturday at cabin.  

3 hours ago, Itstrainingtime said:

This is ramping up pretty quickly:

Just give me a run of the mill T boomer please n thx.  Dont like damaging anything stormwise.  

13 hours ago, canderson said:

74 today. Garden is greening up quickly.

 

Meeting a friend in Lancaster for dinner tomorrow - any suggestions on where to sit outside? Downtown. 

Southern Market is really cool.  not outdoor, but its an international style venue, w/ many different cultural goodies to pick from. Rally nice bar in the center that'll suite you well...me thinks. 

13 hours ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Even with these nice days, I would still check ahead to see who has their outdoor space operating this early. With that said, South County Brewing (site of the old Pressroom) should have a nice outdoor area back on the ‘ol Steinman Park patio. Also, don’t think they have any outdoor seating but if you haven’t been Southern Market is a really cool spot. 

took my wife there a couple weeks back.  Really like that place. I also agree that a phone call for outside seating might be smart, as they may not be ready for outdoor service.

1 hour ago, pawatch said:

31 degrees and a frost. Next week, just deal with what Mother Nature sends us.

River at a warning level so no fishing yet this year yet . 

I'm headed to cabin this weekend for work weekend.  From what i've seen much ice is gone from Pine.  You should start to drop soon.  

Not sure there's enough of a pattern change to worry about flooding, but hoping drought concerns are mitigated. 

Gonna be what its gonna be.

Happy spring fling all.  Didnt mean to come off as a jackwagon, but its seemed a bit tense as we transition away from winter and what's next.  Every year the first warmup seems to give false hope, and we all should know that its too soon to "call it", let alone squabble over uncertainty.  

Lol'in at the back and forth with the 

its over.....

no....it's not

this met is waving his flag, so it must be....

Its been cold, must welcome the warmth.

Friendly reminder to all sans bias....

1. It's over when Mo Nature says so.  Always has been always will be.  

2. Like it or not, plenty of signs have been showing for the St. Pattys period for shenanigan's.  Doesn't mean snow, but it'll be a kick in da arse cold compared to the spring fling we all are about to enjoy. 

3.Even those of us who love snow and cold. Yesterday was nice to be outside. That's undeniable no matter how big a sno hound one can be.  

4. Someones "ex" favorite met tossed some weather cookies of his own and blew some events (due to his bias, or just getting the call flat wrong?) 

5. It's March 9. Mets and maps have all been wrong enough this year for me to discount nothing.  Last weeks ens guidance said winter was over whle Ops said hold my beer.  Look where we are a week later.  PLENTY of cold/snow showing up.  

6. for those anxiously waiting for spring warmth, you can wish it on all you want but that wont change the date on the calendar.  Your time is coming but for your sanity's sake, tug back on the reins a bit.  

Ok....carry on. 

58 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Lol, the 0z Euro supports the folklore!

Hopefully this upcoming window can produce at least one more trackable snow chance.

I want 6.2 more inches of snow at MDT this season in order get the seasonal total to the 30 inch climo average.

The 0z Euro would deliver it. Give me this to verify & then I would be good with moving on to Spring.

Next weekend surely looks to get a trough back in the east.  It's been showing on the LR guidance for a while now, so were getting close enough to think its legit cold.  Just need to see how things line up.  As Mag suggested, GFS/Euro worlds apart in evolution for 3/16 event, so that raises a flag. Looks like you got one more period to track though.  

11 hours ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Yep just saw my first lightning in quite a while. Heavy batch getting ready to roll through. Our dogs don’t love it either. 

add me to the first tboomer list.  nice rain and rumbles/flashes last night

I think drought talk will suppress as much as snow talk has.

Speaking of snow, look at 0z Euro.  Blizz may get one last hurrah if it has a clue.  Still looking just before or around green beer day. 

14 minutes ago, anotherman said:

But it is waaaaay too early for 70s and 80s. That shouldn’t be happening consistently until May. 40s and 50s are more seasonal and a more gradual way for spring to spring. For some twisted reason, people think early Spring means flip flop weather and that is just false.

Yeah this weeks "warmup" so far has been an epic fail.  Just looked and NWS has me in upper 40's today and tomorrow.  i memory serves a week ago I thought I'd be in the 60's and some said ticklin 70.  Regardless this is typical spring weather and while I HATE mud....we need the rain and looks like plenty of chances to suppress the spring wildfire worries.

1 hour ago, Superstorm said:

I’m gonna like this warm up. It’s going to be muted but well deserved.

However, I do believe in 10 days we could be tracking snow events again.


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Yeah some guidance is showing enough blues close enough to keep an eye out around St. Patty's day for some winter shenanigans.  

14 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

It is remarkable seeing how historically dry it was this Winter.
We are probably lucky that MDT has about 24 inches of snow for the season given how little precip that there actually was to work with this Met Winter season.

and thats why I was happy with winter.  We actually captitalized on a good period, and were able to hold the cold....and snow.  Had that not happend, I'd be rather bummed and less "curvy" w/ my B+ grade.  

8 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Yeah, it's absurd the amount of excess crap that gets spread for every little event.  We joke at work up in Harrisburg that the river up that way turns brackish during the winter from the amount of salt the capitol complex maintenance staff drops everywhere at all times.  And when I say dump, I mean literally just piles all over the sidewalks, often for absolutely no threat of winter weather at all.  I'm sure @canderson can attest to what I'm saying.  It's not the preparation that gets me, it's the excess use of the stuff.  It's ridiculous.

We live in the age of liability.  Everyone always looking to blame others and are sue happy.  Just the cold hard truth.  

I dont like it a bit, and would be fine w/ just plows n shovels for snow removal.  Thats it.    

23 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

0z Euro also looked to be loading up for another potential Winter comeback possibility at the end of the 15 day run.

One thing of note this year is that Op guidance seemingly has done pretty well vs longer lead ENS guidance, so hey, maybe once again, this has a chance.  Verbatim what you've shared would be "anomalous enough".  Lol

11 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Snow chances tbd… but I think we will have our chances based on the pattern with the MJO moving towards phase 8 and the -WPO.

+AO/NAO and -PNA rolling forward tells me trough W/ridge E. 

I dont see MJO headed twds 8?  Where did you see that?  PNA is a big player in what we get here in the east.  Yes, WPO/EPO surely have a say as well, but AO/NAO and PNA trifecta that is against us, says whooaa big fella.  Yes, they can be overcome, but in mid march it needs to be anomalously so IMO.  Not trying to debbie, just calling it as I see it.   

1 hour ago, WmsptWx said:

Don't issue grades. We've been told there's "plenty of winter left" despite all evidence to the contrary.

I saw the back n forth.  You guys can fight that out.  I'm merely stating my opinion.

To me, March is least favorite "winter" month.  Yeah it can snow, but its gotta be anomalous in a lot of ways for it to happen, and stick around long enough to enjoy.  Sure I'll take it if it comes, but I won't lose much sleep over it.  Its been a good enough winter that my season end depression is there but not as bad as a suck ass ratter.  I'm ready to stay busy and pass the time till we start chatting up what winter looks like in October.  I'll end by saying this past winter was FAR better than what most thought here in the east.  Thats why I love this sport, cause Mo Nature always holds the cards.  

3 hours ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

Bradford hit 6 last night, Mt. Pocono 8.  National high of 101 at Rio Grande Village, TX and low of -25 at Estcourt Station, ME.

Met Winter at MDT came in cold (4.4 BN), dry (3.00" BN), and with typical snowfall (.9" AN).  The last part may surprise some, as MDT recorded 23.8" of snow, whereas normal is 22.9".  So basically, we did alright on the snowfall front considering the lack of precip.  Some other random stats:  Average wind speed/direction was 7.9mph/WNW (300 degrees to be precise); average sky cover was 65%; and, MDT observed 27 days with light snow falling, 6 with snow, 2 with heavy snow, 6 with sleet, and 11 with fog reducing visibility to <1/4 mile.  Onward.

thanks for sharing.  Makes my feelings of a normal kinda winter feel validated. 

Even though we didnt quite snow as much as I had hoped.  Still a solid one for me.  Looking at tellies and ENS guidance suggests we are nearing the end of notable winter weather.  That said, my final grade of a B+ (the busts of last weekend and week dropped if from an A-).  Still very happy.  

1 hour ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

No dusting or evidence of any flakes here last night either.

The Old line “Never count on a Clipper” rings true again.

Yeah, it started to go poof on some mesos yesterday, and while I expected (and got) zero flakes down here, I was hoping for the 1-3" at the cabin for what might be the last hurrah for snowmobiling.  I may head up anyway, or i have an invite to Brantingham NY where snow is a plenty right now.  

Only good about modeled clippers, is that they never stop inspiring false hope for a snow weenie like me, cause every once in a while they make it SE of the mountains.  

Monday looks nice as currently modeled.  Would be a nice end (unless the improving tellies/ssw) materializes later in March.  I'd be just fine w/ it either way.  

Seeing snow covered landscapes on way into office today, was just another win for this snowhound.

43 minutes ago, mahantango#1 said:

I remember how bad the roads were several days after the storm. It was like driving over a washboard.

Wont be as fun this time but man would it be nice to wrap up with a doozy. 

I'll stay invested for another week, before I start spring cleaning the cave.  It's been a good winter based on snow OTG, but we've tracked a good bit, and have not had great returns, so I'm gettin a little tired.  any of the next couple events throw down some white gold, I'll be giving a solid A for overall appeal, while knowing how lucky we really were for the 5 week solid deep ass winter feel that we had.  

25 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

 

High is in the perfect location for Monday's potential event. We'll need that look to hold to get what we want. Precarious situation with that but at least we're not worried about a redeveloper type of thing. 

+'s

zonal flow makes this less "diggy" and as you state, as long as HP doesnt get to easily displaced, one would think front end potential has merit.

themrally it looks to be decent

SLP rides the baroclinic zone

-'s

Its late season and based on flow, one could see this eeking south (as well as tendencies of this winter so far)

Based on climo and NAO being solidly pos, one could also see how the warm nose that is evident, can do its dirty work (just like last weekend) and can nuke our precious thermals)