psuhoffman

@40westwx couple clarifications. 1. The US population increased by about 957,000 in 2019 not 6 million. Maybe you saw 6% which is the avg rate increase over the last 20 years and misinterpreted that. But the rate has been dropping steadily in recent years. 2. a relatively small change in the mortality % is really significant when applied to 329 million people! Your talking about hundreds of thousands of people with just a fraction of a % change. 3. deaths from heart disease are up not down. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-the-heart-attack-death-rate-has-doubled-during-covid-19 https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/07/10/more-people-are-dying-during-the-pandemic-and-not-just-from-covid-19 4. One number in isolation doesn’t give a clear picture when dealing with an issue that has multiple variables. You need to control for all the variables. This could work either way. Deaths from things like heart disease have gone up due to people in some cases being reluctant to get treatment. But there is evidence some other death rates have gone down. Even though the % of accidents that are fatal has gone up die to wreck less driving on less crowded roads because the sheer volume of accidents is so down the overall mortality decreases. There are various other factors needed to be calculated. That could end up pushing the conclusion you infer in either direction but it can’t be known until it is done. I’ll let the expert statisticians who are paid to do that...do it before I draw conclusions.

Cool, my misunderstanding. Just want to make sure I know “the rules”. OSfan was being a bleep though.

Told ya the dry slot wouldn’t make it to you. That band will start to dissipate over the next couple hours but upslope flow could keep you going for a while.

We can get intense CCB banding down in MD too but it’s less frequent getting a storm to amplify enough that far south. Plus we can get some pretty good WAA front end thumps too if there is a deep cold layer dammed in. Obviously it happens way more frequently in New England.

So you’re saying there are very fine people on both sides?

But if there is a storm thread do they still post in there or the storm thread? Maybe it was that way and I never noticed before. We’ve had forum dividing events though and melt downs by weenies whose feeling are hurt it’s not gonna snow on their house but I don’t remember (besides jokes) suggesting the part of the region getting snow needs to sequester themselves away so as not to hurt the feelings of those not getting snow.

@mdhokie this is the mortality chart for 2020 from the October CDC update with covid broken down by age. You can see mortality has been running way above normal. The drop near the end is due to a lag in reporting. The second chart lumps all flu/pneumonia/covid deaths together which debunks the claim that flu or pneumonia deaths were being mis attributed. If so it’s funny how we suddenly had a pneumonia epidemic.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate The site clearly specifies that 2020 does not include covid impacts. In searching for this source I also found references to the CDC releasing non covid mortality estimates. So putting 2+2 that chart is our 2020 projected mortality absent effects of covid. Which makes sense. But the way it was presented was misleading.

Very important to mention the data you cited does not include any covid data. That is our mortality rate excluding covid deaths.

That house needed more moderation

Oh definitely...but with a more typical temperature profile across eastern North America I also doubt you see that result either. Either way it was anomalous not something that should happen frequently, especially not deeper into winter.

Don’t be a jerk. Yea this sub is dominated by the DC Balt corridor but that doesn’t mean the people in our region outside that zone can’t discuss their weather.

We’ve been in about as bad a pattern as possible all November and so the North American temp profile was torched. That’s not something that will happen often where you are, and especially not mid winter.

Deer jumped out right in front of me on that road last trip up to Sugarloaf.

From numerous spring ski trips up there, once you get north of the crest of the Presidential range and running NE in Maine...places with some elevation hold their snowpack pretty good all winter. They’re shielded a bit from the warmth there.

I doubt the dry slot makes it to you. You should stay under banding until about 2-3am then it’s upslope after that.

Yea...when it’s 31/32 at 1600 feet in northern NH under heavy precip...nuff said.

I assume you are in one of the higher elevations in the area?

It’s pretty awful for this time of year. The pattern now is ok but the record +NAM state and pac ridge combo in November left us void of any N American cold air source. I know I’m south of you but I’m on top of a ridge in a spot that normally gets crushed by marginal good track setups and despite a textbook h5 and surface track all I could manage is a few slush bombs mixing in during the heaviest rates. Everything had to go picture perfect for this to work even up there given there was no low level cold at all to work with.

I think that’s a good spot

Where did you set up?

The Gfs is handling the whole setup up top and the mid lat response completely different from other guidance. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong. It was on an island a week ago wrt how it was rolling over the western Canada ridge and it turned out right.

I was referring to your general overall tone. But my point was what some call pessimism is simply realism and knowing our climo. If they want smoke up their arse they can read JB. Either one.

Thanks. Fwiw I’ve noticed the gefs seems improved so far this cold season. It’s won its fair share of battles with the EPS so far. That’s not really what we want right now though. Lol

Long term that AK vortex is a killer. It will try to flood zonal pac air across the conus. It can be fought off sometimes temporarily if you have good atl blocking but even then it’s a struggle. But oddly enough a lot of our snowstorms feature a trough near Alaska. That’s because there is a lag effect of several days to a week before that feature kills us. But in the meantime the short term effect often opens up a window of opportunity here if there is some atl blocking. As the ridge response to that AK vortex crashes into the west coast often there is a temporary downstream trough in the east under the blocking. For a short time it actually can favor something amplifying along the east coast. It won’t last, that’s why a lot of our storms are followed by a warm up not long after, but there is often a short period of opportunity as that AK trough sets up before the pattern goes to crap.