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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/09/what-has-pfizers-covid-vaccine-trial-found-and-is-this-a-breakthrough How excited should we be? Most experts agree that the results are exciting and excellent news, but the optimism should come with a note of caution: the results are preliminary, have been shared only by press release, and the trials are not yet complete. So far, 38,955 people have received two doses of the vaccine, and the team plan a further analysis of the results once a total of 164 confirmed Covid-19 cases have occurred among the participants. They will also follow participants for two years post-vaccination to explore long-term safety and whether it continues to provide protection.

I have a hard time seeing people who believe in science and the severity of the virus to suddenly say no to a vax. It’s the people who don’t believe in science, the virus, are anti-vaccine...that will be the issue.

Why is it ‘sad’ too? What a strange fella that guy is.

No. You’re not listening. I have issues with pfizer at a personal level. Stop making assumptions that I am calling out every company making a vax.

True. My dad worked at the Brooklyn plant for a decade before it closed and he got sick. Yes, we want to get past this asap but let science and a rigorous approval process dictate it...and not press release But I never acused them of rushing it, did I? All I said is they are a shady corp based on past history so I’ll remain skeptical until the approval process takes shape. If it goes through and it’s all good, I’m in.

Not trusting a big pharma corp that has had several lawsuits against them, rolled out some awful drugs in the past, and my dad worked for them before he passed...is not conjecturing. I’ll wait until an independent fda review approves any vaccine before I inject it. Just me though.

Agree. My dad worked for them.

Eff Pfizer. They are shady AF. I’ll wait until all the data comes out.

A double tea bagger? What a gentleman.

Double?

I don’t expect perfection but it’s nice to have positivity surrounding the vibe of the country again. Great speech...have to turn it into action though.

Enjoy it. It’s a glorious day. 5mg is perfect.

I haven’t felt it either and you could tell Ray is a concerned as well that the under to his forecasted range has a good chance of hitting. It is what it is.

Sorry you think that. Be well.

You got that one. Well played. Just don’t expect any speeding. I’ll be 10mph below the limit in the right lane...maybe riding the shoulder at times. Let’s leave early, very early.

@natedizel The argument is not that ONLY white nationalists support him and nobody else does lol so I really am not understanding your counter points. Many people of different walks of life voted for him and that is fine. It’s America...vote for a dump truck if you want to write it in. The point is, there is no denying the rise of white nationalism and their support for Trump, QAnon, Faix News, etc...and the only party that gives them their outlet is the republican party (for now).

Yup. It will practically be a carbon copy. The deep divide is not going away anytime soon.

That’s much different. Miami dade is heavily cuban american and they are against communism (Castro) which Trump did a great job of labeling Dems as.

It’s all good, no attacks here. Just opinions/discussions. If I cross the line and take it too far just get Ginxy on me.

Big difference, you’re right, but unfortunately they are lumped together more and more. Agree..it’s all that I was trying to say. The rhetoric is dangerous. Anyone who keeps thinking it’s just him NBD refuses to acept the gravity of his words the alt right consumes.

Well put. I wasn’t following that rational. People vote for a variety of reasons but when a politician has every chance to denounce white nationalism but never does...what other proof do we need? Are D politicians perfect? Hell no. They have issues themselves...but I have yet to hear one be pro white nationalism.

Congrats. He gained 2-4% there but it usually takes months to get a true number. What is your point again?

Some continue to ignore the wedge that he pounded through. Just like when extremists attacked the Boston Marathon, we have to flush out the terrorists no matter who they associate with. To turn a blind eye and not be concerned about the alt right white supremacy movement is ignorant. They are all around us. When Tucker Carlson on Fake News tells millions of viewers, “R’s have 70% of the guns, blood will flow.” I guess that is his first amendment right to spew and incite violence? Vote for whoever you want but this is bigger than politics moving forward.

Saw the new euro seasonal and it looks pretty bad fwiw. We’ll enjoy the warm month for now though.

And by enablers I do not mean those who voted for him. That’s fair game and people have that right. It’s the yes men and women around him who follow him into the dark rhetoric hole. Nobody has the balls to slap him around to tell him this is NOT how you act as you leave.