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Starting to see velocities increase with a tighter gate to gate. Debris ball back on radar now. Don’t think the main/parent violent tornado ever weakened, it obviously moved into a rural area and now beginning to move into a more populated area. This tornado now has a historic feel to it, for all the wrong reasons.

As of what has already happened wasn’t enough, new tornado now going up 30mi back to the SW behind the long tracked violent tornado. Following the same path as the main tornado we been tracking. Debris signature and gate to gate signatures evident.

Very impressive that this tornado been on the ground as long as it has. Definitely a textbook situation to teach concerning what happens when a supercell matures and can get surface based/rooted.

3 minutes ago, yoda said:

Rare TORE has been issued for this tornadic storm as well for the past 30 minutes 

Yeah the duration of this TORE is approaching rare territory.

9 minutes ago, andyhb said:

Debris above 30k feet with this thing, very likely violent.

Very indicative of a EF4+. Not a good thing to see on radar.

Gate to Gate is 185+. Well into the EF4 range with velocities still increasing. This supercell is surface based and rooted, this will likely be a cyclic long tracked long lived violent tornado.

7pm-11pm looks to be the best window for significant severe weather. QLCS looks to be a broken line with some discrete supercells. 

Latest HRRR run suggests that this might be a nocturnal outbreak. Best parameters look to be after 7pm, right about when the LLJ gets cranking. 

One noticeable thing to point out, 2 waves of isolated ahead of the QLCS. Previous runs only had 1 wave but there’s a 2nd wave at the end of the 10z run. Another thing to mention is the separation between the discrete supercells is improving. 

Northeast Louisiana

From 6z to 9z, there are rather large significant improvements in the low level thermos on the HRRR. Not a great sign, as it further indicates a loaded gun environment is evolving. I would venture to say if trends continue we see a High Risk issuance for LA and MS.

15 hours ago, Calderon said:

Problem is in Selma is that you can see a lot of subpar, older, and/or poor construction and a good majority of homes will probably be totaled. 

Exactly, I didn’t mean to take away from that perspective. That was one of the issues during the 2011 Super Outbreak that was noted by the survey teams and engineers. The construction throughout MS, AL, GA was weak and poorly constructed. Sad when you think about it. But of course, what isn’t demolished or completely destroyed will have to be bulldozed. The only point I noted was that I thought the terminology “catastrophic” was too much. It seems like every outbreak that happens now the media and enthusiasts through that terminology around frequently. Should be reserved terminology, only used for the Joplin/Moore/Birmingham type tornado events.

12 hours ago, nwohweather said:

It’s so cool how they post these live now. To say look there’s an EF3-4 barreling through as we speak really gives clarity to all

I remember back during the 2020 Easter Outbreak they posted one of these for the Bassfield, MS violent tornado. It gave me goosebumps/chills to read it.

“Confirmed large, deadly violent tornado. Likely ongoing EF5 in progress”

For me that was the first time seeing a Mesoscale Discussion used in that manor for a violent tornado. They actually noted in the text for the MD that the gate-to-gate signature on radar was maxing out with velocities on the higher-end spectrum well exceeding 200mph. 

11 minutes ago, kayman said:

From The Weather Channel  App: https://weather.com/storms/severe/video/drone-footage-from-selma-alabama-reveals-extent-of-tornado-damage?pl=pl-latest-forecasts

Tornadic damage in Selma is the catastrophic with whole neighborhoods destroyed

Definitely a very bad situation for Selma. I wouldn’t use “catastrophic” to describe that damage though. Appears to be EF2/EF3 as there’s a lack of completely destroyed and slabbed buildings. A lot of interior/exterior walls still standing. For that reason I highly doubt it gets higher than a weak EF3 when survey teams assess the damage. Very fortunate this thing didn’t hit in April with a more amplified jet and rich gulf moisture. 

2 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Lol

 

 

That's hilarious

2 minutes ago, DE2PA said:

NAM in range 

Exactly. I never use the NAM for the clown maps but rather to look for small changes and track deviations like what I indicated above. During past winter storms the NAM had a habit of sniffing out such things that the globals eventually picked up on in later runs. The NAM model is a tool, like the other models, and has its use. However, most people fail to realize that and only strictly use the NAM to glamour over the clown maps without understanding that the NAM has bias's like the other models.

Comparing the 18z and 00z NAM runs for 12z Wednesday

Interesting to note, so far the 00z NAM has the center of low pressure farther to the east of 18z runs through hour 57. Much weaker system and a lack of moisture overall, appears to be suppressed as the precip field struggles to get north of the SC/NC line where as 18z the precip field was up to the VA/NC line. Just a few significant trends I'm noticing with tonights 00z NAM.

2 minutes ago, Daniel Boone said:

Oh, definitely agree with that as well. I've been retired a long time now and don't have as much experience with advanced tools in the field they have now but, will say the Greenland block -NAO hook-up is more prominent in recent years. The cause is not completely understood, mainly speculation. 

       I just thought Cape pointed out something that actually makes sense. Why are the 50-50 lows not developing or holding like it seems they should ? Could be SST'S in that area ,QBO etc.. who knows for sure. But, we do know, there's cause and effect. 

The answer I believe is more complex and includes multiple different aspects. I do believe, so far this season, SST's are playing more of a part in the issues up north with trying to get an established block. 

18 minutes ago, Jebman said:

That's GB 16. I was livin' in Woodbridge VA then, and I got 27 inches of white paradise right in my backyard. Spent four days of pure BLISS diggin' all that snow! Then my neighbors came up saying they wanted me to shovel their walks, using Jebman Standards lol. Jebman Standards involve digging 8 feet around all cars on the property, removing all the snow from the full width of the sidewalks and driveways, and piling it up as high as possible.

How was the jebwalk after that particular storm...compared to past storms? Was it a top-10, top-5, top-3, or #1 Jebwalk event?

11 minutes ago, Daniel Boone said:

the 50-50 low is whats been missing. thats the problem as cape's alluded to in other posts.

There are other issues like the warm ocean temps, that I fell are playing a part in this. Also like CAPE just said, this being a Nina year presents its own set of issues as well.

Or we can try and figure out where those "DT-Forecasted" snowstorms went. Lets look at his social media post on Nov 30th and play the game of "decipher the code" or "solve the equation". Maybe its a typo...he meant "Major East Coast Rainstorms"

3 minutes ago, ravensrule said:

Maybe it will end the constant depression and bitching in here. It’s almost unmanageable. 

It wont, it will just help to "ease" the nerves of those on the cliff ready to jump until the 00z suite starts rolling. 

1 hour ago, LeesburgWx said:

DT is woofing 

Oh it’s the season…..that time of year when DT breaks out the colored pencils. Also, one of his better jumbled up “art pieces” he has posted. He actually colored inside the lines this time. But we all know his snow maps are coming shortly and we will be struggling to decipher/crack the code and/or solve the equation to figure out what zone we are in.