fujiwara79

technically florida allows 100% occupancy at sports venues, but nobody has tried to do that.

this also isn't a classic miller B. it's closer to a miller A, if anything. And miller A's tend to have more warm air with them.

Even with vaccination increasing, I would expect some outbreaks arise once we truly go back to normal, i.e. packed stadiums, concerts, conferences. As vaccination levels increase, restrictions will decrease - which, for a while, will probably be counteracting forces that keep case counts relatively high for a while.

death counts are high there. hospitalization counts tend to flatten off once the death counts get high. sometimes you have other data issues where not all hospitals are reporting.

ah yes, you're probably one of those people who thinks "my neighbor is doing great, therefore we can't be in a recession". my company has grown too. doesn't mean the economy hasn't slowed down. our 14 trillion economy isn't represented by your company.

I guess most economists are also engaging in hyperbole because they’re worried about the same thing. The economy has slowed down big time since the summer. That’s irrefutable.

pennsylvania is closing indoor dining and gyms for the rest of the calendar year.

we've become a third world country in some respects. not in terms of wealth, but in terms of government and societal dysfunction. we have 3000 people dying per day and slowly heading into a double-dip recession. our government is incapable of addressing the needs of the people. meanwhile, we have a gigantic fundraising scam going on ($500 million dollars and counting) that is completely based on a fake story ("rigged" election). geez, donate your money to a food bank instead. were people this stupid 20 years ago? i'd like to think not, but maybe social media has made stupidity contagious.

by his logic, heart disease and cancer aren't that fatal either. actually, by his logic, nothing is really that fatal. lol

i believe that the european countries that are currently under restrictions gave people/businesses money in advance.

you do realize that covid is the leading cause of death in america right now, correct? but other than that, sure, it's not fatal.

but i think those tradeoffs were considered. at the end of the day, would you allow, say, 2 million people to die in order to prevent a hypothetical 10% increase in the suicide rate? currently, there's been an increase in suicides amongst health care workers because they've been working practically nonstop for the past 9 months and they feel like nothing is being done to help them.

hospitalizations have dropped significantly in iowa. i think they are pulling the plug on people and that's why death counts are so high but also why there are less hospitalized patients.

I also heard that anti-maskers don't change their underwear for weeks at a time. And wearing the same underwear that long helps spread "Covid"

No, hospitalizations are, by definition, inpatient.

so if they checked into the hospital for blood clots, but they tested positive for Covid upon admission, how do they know Covid didn't cause (or exacerbate) the blood clots? Or if someone with COPD checks into the hospital for shortness of breath, but test positive for Covid upon admission, how do they know Covid wasn't exacerbating their pre-existing lung issues? That's why I don't understand how 30% of Covid hospitalizations are "asymptomatic". They're obviously symptomatic of something -- otherwise they wouldn't be in the hospital. How do they know their symptoms aren't being caused/exacerbated by Covid given that they tested positive?

If they don't have symptoms of anything, why are they checking into a hospital? People generally don't want to spend the night at a hospital unless they're not feeling well. Perhaps Covid is causing their symptoms or exacerbating them

Hospitalizations tend to plateau when the death counts get high. I suspect the hospitalization counts will rise much more slowly given that so many are dying and thus leaving the hospital.

Those 2020 numbers are based on UN projections and do not include impacts from COVID-19. That disclaimer is written at the top of the page where it’s sourced from. I understand you’re a full blown denier but at least read the sources that you reference from.

with vaccines coming soon, I think we might - just might - be rounding the corner. granted, it's a sharp corner with jagged edges.

I think he's going by what one executive at one hospital told him, and extrapolating that to the entire country. I'm surprised to see that level of inductive reasoning on a supposedly scientific message board. We're probably going to hit at least 2000 deaths today, and we'll probably average around 2500 deaths per day during the upcoming peak.

oh boy. we've got a herd immunity guy here. Sweden tried your approach. They hoped that they would get herd immunity during the spring. While the rest of the world would experience a second wave, Sweden would avoid it, or so they thought. That hasn't happened. They are nowhere near herd immunity even though they tried to get there. Now they've backtracked and are issuing restrictions that are more stringent than what we have here. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-24/sweden-says-it-sees-no-signs-herd-immunity-is-stopping-the-virus

If only 20% of the country has been infected, that's basically proof that masks and distancing work. We'd undoubtedly be at 40% at least without those measures.

Trust me, we won't.