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But tell me it makes any sense, lol.

My app has KPIT at 91, so it should have at least hit 90.

Officially 88, and tied for the warmest day, barring anything crazy, this should end up as the first 90 degree day. My weather app, that I have for KPIT, has hit 90, so we'll see if that is accurate.

And yet... The inconsistency is wild, lol.

Right, so could just make it.

Interesting, as we're at 82 already (from the weather app centered on KPIT), which seems like a decent temperature to potentially hit 90 later. I'd like to see it at 86 around noon to feel a little more confident in 90.

I mean probably, but even the NWS does this too. And it's just a very strange phenomena that drives me nuts. It's kind of like when we are forecast to stay all snow and mix and rain stays south and almost every time without fail, we switch over (however, this winter was not that issue).

I definitely feel we under perform when we are forecast to hit 90. Lower temperature forecasts are overshot many times, but 90, even with model support, atmospheric support, and forecast support is undershot way more often, despite areas all around reaching and exceeding that number. That’s my point.

Right, so stopping at 88-89 is more common. I believe that's basically what I said earlier. My initial point was underachieving on days forecast to hit the 90s is very typical. We rarely overachieve and hit 92 on those days, for example, or hit 90 when we are forecasted for upper 80s. Just seems weird that other areas seem to overachieve more often than we do. At least it seems that way.

That's just one year though. Look at 2019, 3 90 degree days, 10 at 88/89. I'd bet if you averaged it out 88-89 has more days than 90s. Plus, looking at last year when looking at the 88/89 days that's based on two temperatures, while we reached 5 different temperatures in the 90s (90, 91, 92, 93 and 94). So, thirteen days reached two different temperatures and 17 days reached five different temperatures. I'd say 88/89 is more common.

But this is typical, we should expect 88-89 the next two days. Anything higher is an overachiever in my books.

Still, it's a struggle for our area to climb to the 90s no matter how supportive the airmass, but it will be interesting to see. Hit 88 today, still the warmest of the year.

Yeah, I'm skeptical of 90 over the next few days, but we are close.

My take on that, is eventually we will see a heat wave similar to theirs. It may be a while, but the fact that they will break all time records by that much is insane to even think. I believe they are in a pretty decent drought, which helps fuel the heat, but I'd say we aren't immune to something similar at some point (may be many years). I'd say them shooting to 115 would be like us jumping to 106 or 107. The crazy thing is Portland and the NW may not see anything this extreme for decades and decades again. Just to be clear. I like heat, and do want to see us hit 100 soon, to break the drought there, but spiking that far above 100 would be too extreme.

Also extremely unlikely Portland would stay above 107 for multiple days and yet they could hit 115 for two days

Meh, no, lol.

Fell short of forecasted highs today. Only 84, despite sunshine all day. Doesn't bode well for 90 the next few days, but we'll see.

It would just be a pathetic high if it was only 60 in July. Just a statement, not that deep.

Troughs can wait until the Fall, lol! Give me hot, sunny summer followed by a crisp cool Fall, and a winter that we all want here.

It definitely looks like the weather a week out is really not known. Just the last few weeks when I check the weather app the weather in the extended forecast always seems to change pretty drastically. This weekend for example, last week it looked like today would be rainy and 75-ish. Obviously much different. As long as it isn’t cold and rainy I’ll be happy. It can be 75 and sunny for the holiday.

Pathetic if that would turn out true. If it’s GFS lots of room for improvement. Would hate for the second summer holiday to be shitty like Memorial Day, but I’m sure it will happen.

Today was a perfect summer day. If it could be low 80s, sunny and low dew points everyday from June through August I'd be happy.

Edit, Euro backed off on big heat next week at 12z run. Couple days near 90 then low 80s.

Euro has the heat focused from Monday through Friday, with a 94 on Thursday.

Which is why GFS is a take it with a grain of salt model right now.