According to the 12z GFS....Surface is very marginal. 925 MB temps are around 0 to -2 C with surface temps hovering around freezing or just above. 850's and 700's look good so no mixed precip issues it looks like. The 12z NAM is colder though with 925 MB temps around -3 or -4 C.
So looks like we're going to depend on some 'dynamic cooling' from the lift and precip rates to cool the surface to around freezing.
Quantity over Quality? I just want snow, doesn't have to stick, just some good mood snow before Christmas, but the marginal temp profile worries me, plus the possibility that it could always trend north as time goes on due to lack of cold air.
Bit of a shift north on the 12z GFS. Temps are going to be pretty marginal but snow falling is snow falling, especially in the daytime.
Edit: Another system with spotty chances for rain/snow on Tues keeps showing up as well.
Where it does snow with the Sunday system, the surface temps are near/above freezing so there would be minimal impact unless it came down at a heavy enough rate.
Yeah, I've been watching it snow there from a couple chasers who are chasing the snow.
https://livestormchasing.com/map
As close as we get to snow these days....
Looks like Woodward, OK will probably be the place to be for snow with this system.
Looks like my long range fantasy system came together on the 18z GFS.
This might be interesting long term. Any normal year and I'd be excited to see a southern wave with another wave rapidly diving SE over the Rockies, but man the flow is so fast, it's hard for the models to keep up with these pieces of energy.
12z GFS found some precip. Maybe a nice rain/snow mix for someone, with a bit more snow on the NW side.
12z GEM is coming in dry.
Either way, shouldn't be that big of a deal for many, but considering the snow drought..... it will at least be something.
NYC back up to numbers where they would shut down schools and start more restrictions.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/this-is-our-last-chance-nyc-mayors-pleas-to-stop-2nd-wave-avoid-new-closures-grow-urgent/2714495/
That bright thing in the sky decided to show back up today. So much rain!
The -EPO looks to build in about 9-10 days, but the first push of cold air looks to be directed into the western US. Maybe in time it will bleed east. We'll see!
It will be warmer for a bit, but even the Euro EPS has come around to more of a -EPO look. I don't get the Ensembles, so not sure what it does after this, whether it dumps the cold in the west or what.
The 06z GFS preps for another ice storm.
It was looking like it would be an extended stretch of boring and warm after this, but the 12z GFS and CMC decided to pop a -EPO in about 10 days, which would result in downstream troughing and a dump of cold down the Plains. We'll see.
Italy has to deal with violent lockdown protests now, so I don't think whoever said that about protests is far off if another lockdown were to occur.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54701042