LibertyBell

wow 2002-03 was the complete opposite of this winter

Besides the amazing 1966-67 season all those years are during or prior to world war 1! Actually the vast majority are from the 1800s lol.

1966-67 was amazing.

I saw some videos indicating that it snowed in Brooklyn during the day on Saturday. I thought the snow happened in the middle of the previous night? I wasn't aware that any snow fell in NYC or Long Island during the day.

and back to snow in early April lol

snow in the Poconos after severe weather yes. I saw a heavy frost when I got back to Long Island Monday morning after Mother's Day.

The really major heat was between 2010 and 2013, now we seem to have much more rainy springs (and a lot more allergies.). 2011 was a year in which we had both extreme heat AND lots of rain- like 1983 in that respect!

for some reason I remember 90s occurring more frequently in April and May back then (with the exception of 2002 and 2010 of course.) It's been like pulling teeth to get 90 at JFK before June in recent years...... when was the last time we had a polar vortex like this during the winter?

looks like those hornets love cool rainy weather......they'll probably be here in a couple years...and we might still be wearing face masks then!

you'd be an awesome LARPer

but the pollen horror has been full steam ahead since March. why cant we invent some sort of chemical to prevent pollen outbreaks? we seem to invent them for everything else......

Did any part of our area reach 80 yet?

the ASOS also underdoes summer temps at NYC and the wind reports are laughable. was ASOS a cost cutting measure so they dont have to pay people?

in 1996 we had snow during Mother's Day weekend too, 1-3 inches in the Poconos, I came home to a big heavy frost on Long Island on Monday, the 14th! 33 degree low. 1995-96 might have been our longest snow season!

thats Rapid City level extremes right there....

2002 was special, we went from a historically unsnowy winter to a brief shot of cold in early April, to a historic heatwave in mid April to another cold down in May to historic heat again over the summer lol. There was snow in the Poconos in May 2002 also. in 1990 we had a stretch of upper 80s in mid March to 1 inch of snow in early April lol....before that we had a Thanksgiving snowstorm going to a historically cold and dry December going to a historically warm Jan/Feb

May and Spring in general was definitely much warmer during the 80s and 90s.......

It will probably be warmer in the Poconos than it will be on Long Island lol.

Still cold enough lol- I think the ocean hasn't warmed any since January haha

Ed, do you have any records of data from Westhampton going back to 1966 or 1967 showing that they had a freeze in early June? And their latest 0 temp on the first day of Spring?

I remember that was a really dry and hot summer at JFK, the lawns around here were yellow and brown....even in September. Somewhat like 1983.

Chris weren't there earlier records, like from the exceptional 1966-67 cold season that had the Hamptons below freezing as late as June? And below zero as late as the first day of Spring?

I would say Memorial Day weekend to be completely safe.

2002? that was our mildest winter on record followed by mid 90s in April LOL

I thought there was a report that there was a 6% reduction? Still just a drop in the bucket. Of more interest is this: Some good news coming out of all this (after being condemned by the UN) is both China and Vietnam are starting to close down those unsanitary wet markets. Axios and PBS interviewed world renowned biologist Sir David Attenborough and he talked about the connections between biodiversity, pandemics and climate change and how poaching of elephants and other imported animals from Africa to Asia impacts deforestation (because these animals move seeds from one place to another in the African forests). He is now 93 yrs old and he said that when he was growing up in the 30s, about 67% of the planet was wilderness, which was down to about 50% during the 90s, and now is down to only 25%. These forests are integral because they act as carbon sinks. He also mentioned that pandemics are becoming more common because of people cutting down more forests and venturing into areas where exotic animals live and coming into contact with new viruses. Also mentioned was the release of once dormant microbes from under melting sea ice in Siberia. He said that he thinks this pandemic will teach us lessons about how quick changes need to be made to thwart the oncoming climate crisis. He also mentioned that giving urban areas access to more nutritious food is vitally important (less processed food, less sugar, etc-- sugary food and fast food can become addictive because of the release of dopamine and has been implicated in the quick rise of diabetes type 2, obesity and high blood pressure in young people, which, along with asthma from air pollution, have been shown to be major pre-existing conditions involved in covid19 deaths) and reducing air pollution by continuing the switch to electric vehicles (no NO2 emission.) Update on the death figures- Johns Hopkins Hospital thinks that the number of people who have died from this virus in the US might be double the reported figures, because the number of people who have died at home has not been reported. The estimate of 25% infection rate in NYC may also be an underestimate. Research out of California indicates that if we loosen restrictions over the summer, the infection rate will become higher than it ever was by August. They say if we keep the restrictions as they are now, the infection rate will rise to above 30% but if we loosen restrictions the infection rate will be around 95% in August. The UK being slow to close things down, looks like PM Boris Johnson has changed his tune from being cavalier to much more cautious about opening things back up now that he's been hospitalized for the infection himself and is a newly minted father. The nations that shut down fastest did the best (like New Zealand, Denmark, Norway, Germany, South Korea, Finland, Iceland, etc.) The most likely scenario and the one which China and Vietnam are now starting to shut down are the unsanitary wet markets and the importation of exotic mammals with exotic viruses that humans haven't come into close contact with before. 60 Minutes did a great piece on this last Sunday and China has started to shut them down after the UN singled them out these wet markets as a source for exotic viruses.