LibertyBell

the sunless part really pisses me off, I hope we dont get that for the spring and summer.

So >40 inches is just as likely as 10-19.9 inches..... being a child of the 80s I find that so difficult, because we never had 40 (or even 30) inches of seasonal snowfall in that entire decade. Actually from 1978-79 through 1992-93!

both 1931-32 and 1989-90 might be useful analogs though, they both had very hot summers the year after (1933 and 1991).... and if the 11 year pattern holds so will 2021!

those places can see snow even with above normal temperatures

I dont remember after April 7th lol....did we have a cool and wet spring or did it get hot again?

I think 2010-11 was somewhat like 1960-61, while 1995-96 was more like 1966-67. Curiously, both 1995-96 and 2010-11 were la ninas that came after el ninos. 2009-10 was great in its own right and would have been much greater and truly historic had we not missed out on a couple of big storms.

somewhat like 1995-96! 1966-67 was close to a weak la nina too wasn't it? (and a weak la nina after a moderate el nino is supposed to be golden for snowfall!)

Sorry I am on Long Island now lol. Do you have the data for JFK and NYC, Don?

rogue waves or a weather tsunami?

How will these storms impact us? Will they be like what we had last week here?

what will it take to put a permanent kibosh on the allergy season lol

if that storm had gone as forecast we would have set a new record low for snowfall at 0.5"! I think that would have been more memorable than slush that lasted for six hours lol.

Indeed! During our early 90s snow drought I went to the college library and went through the NY Times microfiche collection for that very reason. I picked winter 1966-67 to "relive" (or rather, experience for the first time, since my first weather memory is from the early 80s lol) to see what a prolonged snowy winter was actually like. I loved reading their forecasts, seeing their maps and pictures and seeing their stories of cold and snow, which to that point I had never experienced. All I had were the Blizzard of April 1982 and February 1983 which I also loved to read about during our long snow drought. Then for the first time I remember getting excited for snow in 1993, because the summer and fall temp patterns seemed to mimic 1966, and I thought a big winter might be oncoming, so I started keeping a weather journal for the first time in my life.

that sounds about right- they seem to be super sensitive when people criticize their pet model. To the media's credit, they seem to be pretty much ignoring the GFS now lol

yes yet another undermeasured storm at Central Park! the 60s were golden.....

what was the reason given for this so-called "upgrade" and why cant they just roll back to the previous version?

If no snow I'd just like to get an early spring and temps in the 80s and no rain for a few weeks lol. 1989-90 reboot

its rainy just like it is here. A friend in Norway told me they haven't had any snow there at sea level either.

I remember another snowless winter around here when parts of Israel got over a foot of snow!

Notice how it was consistently above 30 inches and close to 35 inches a year at NYC during the first several decades of that dataset.

funny thing is the standard deviation must be high since it's fairly uncommon around here to see winters close to the median or the mean, they're either much higher or much lower.

wow we supposedly had 5" here but I dont remember it at all, sounds like it was a really wet kind of snow? I guess Philly didn't get diddly as they ended up with a T for the entire season!

Don, is there a list of seasons with less than 10" seasonal snowfall somewhere? I want to see how they rank against each other.

so people are going to fall through the ice up there and die, just like they've been doing down here :-(