LibertyBell

I have a better idea. Let's use the 30 year average we are all used to, from the era we grew up in. 1951-80 or 1961-90 or both averaged out.

I think it's changing right now, we're getting into a drier 60s type of pattern.

Now you know why I want climate modification. Hopefully we'll have a 1966 kind of summer and 1966-67 kind of winter.

Right, I like below normal for the first part of March too (low 40s is below normal for March), just not the way it is right now. Looking back at 2014 and 2015 which was the last time we had an EPO like this, we didn't snap to warm weather until around the 20th. March 2014 was really suppressed, that's the outcome we don't want. March 2015 was much snowier, but that came after a historically cold February that was really snowy. With that fast Pac flow, I feel like a March 2014 kind of outcome is more likely, but maybe we can get something in between those two Marches if the SE ridge can prevent suppression?

You need to move closer to the coast ;-)

1 foot here, one of my favorite blizzards, because the wind made sure I didn't have to shovel lol

Not here.

Yep, it's still winter and perhaps even a little below normal, but nothing like what it is now. I would guess low to mid 40s for highs, low 30s for lows.

they are a complete waste of time.

No I never look at the models, I go by what has a better track record, 1) climo 2) persistence and 3) what's happening upstream.

this would go completely against climo of the 2020s. If you want to use 1991-92 as an analog fine, the history of March snowfalls is that they occur in borderline temperatures and melt quickly. Sure it can snow in March but it won't save the season. Also, it could just as easily rain even in the first half of the month with transient cold in between the rainstorms. That's probably more likely.

depends on what you mean by *warm*, it will be warmer than it is right now.

we'll hit 50s for two days next week but the first few days of March are likely to be in the 40s.

yes but transient, nothing like what we have right now.

40s is likely, not 50s on that date.

yes getting to at least 12.0 enters C- territory.

I'd suggest within 100 hours (96 hours or 4 days), but starting it at 5 days might be good to get a head start.

snowier than 88-89 is ironic, lol. I have better memories of this winter than either 1988-89 or 1989-90. 1989-90 had that one shining moment in November though.... PS since we are ranking winters does that storm get added into the calculations, it being a late fall and not winter storm?

Yes, and the best winter of the 80s. JFK recorded 30"+ that winter (LGA did too I think?), the only year in the 80s when either recorded 30"+ (NYC itself did not since they undermeasured that storm.)

doubt it, it's March and the sun gets really strong in March. This winter hasn't been very cold, just cold compared to the last few years. I could see a few days in the upper 30s if it's cloudy, but nothing below low 40s if the sun is out.

did it snow there until midnight?

Don, that 0.1 brought JFK to 12.0 on the season and Central Park is up to 12.5 now? What is LGA at? Thanks.

weird, it stopped snowing here around 11 pm even though radar returns still showed snow over this area until midnight.

I would rank 1982-83 as a hell of a lot better than this winter, a big 22" HECS and the latest accumulating snowfall on record at JFK 2" on April 20th.

we did very well on the south shore too, Chris! question, that says it's the second strongest jet stream winds-- when did we have our strongest?