LibertyBell

I thought it was going to be raining on Thursday and then a frontal passage so clearing and colder on Friday?

We just need to get near average long term normals not the fake average of the last 20 years or so.

Records: Highs: EWR: 82 (1990) NYC: 82 (1990) LGA: 77 (1990) JFK: 68 (2002) Lows: EWR: 17 (1992) NYC: 13 (1911) LGA: 19 (1992) JFK: 18 (1992) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced large hail and damaging winds from northwest Florida to western South Carolina. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 75 mph at Floridatown FL. Sixteen cities across the northeastern quarter of the nation reported record high temperatures for the date. The afternoon high of 78 degrees at Burlington VT smashed their previous record for the date by 23 degrees. New York City reported a record high of 82 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) March 1990, the heat that just didn't quit.... I'm shocked March 1992 was in the teens this late in the month.

all the other ones in that list were much snowier =\

NOAA uses 1951-80 as an established baseline to compare future climate trends. In other words, that's considered the *normal* climate (for better or worse, but we have to start somewhere.)

I'm shocked 1993-94, 1995-96, 2002-03, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2010-11, 2013-14, 2014-15 aren't in the top 20 coldest list.

what about using 1951-80 Chris?

It's just going to be more murky chilly drizzly misty rainy annoying weather.

Yeah I mean we're to the northeast what Key West is to Florida. Minus the palm trees of course.

so cold and rainy for the next 4 weeks, that's absolutely horrible.

oh we might be putting sulfur dioxide back in starting in 2030 to attempt global cooling....

They were discussed earlier.

and Montreal and Burlington are even warmer?

A better comparison is 1988-89, look into that one, even extending it all the way out to December 1989.

and close to 80 in Pittsburgh yesterday, I wonder if they are still warm today.

No winter would be fine, more big snowstorms with a warmer ocean (more chances of bombogenesis). Arctic air also has a higher chance of coming towards us if the waters are warmer.

Tuesday and Wednesday will be absolutely awesome though.

the ocean needs to be blowtorched and I mean with a real blow torch.

you're not wrong wtf does NYC have so many parades? and the trains are always packed with people right after.

the media are corporate buffoons, they concentrate on effects rather than causes.

This is much more like a late 80s winter with the southern snowstorms and less snow here. A better match would be 88-89 even extending to December 1989.

The storm tracks were radically different from that season though.

This has also muted our summer heat in terms of extended heatwaves of 7+ days as well as extremely hot weather, 100+.

Records: Highs: EWR: 79 (1990) NYC: 77 (1990) LGA: 74 (1990) JFK: 72 (2024) Lows: EWR: 14 (1993) NYC: 14 (1993) LGA: 14 (1993) JFK: 15 (1993) What a contrast! Was this peak cold for 1993, Tony? I had forgotten it was 72 here on this date last year!

This is just from the Sunday-Monday storm, Tony? Or is there something coming after that? Because that one storm alone is supposed to give us 1-2 inches.