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Don, was there a snow storm in the 1980s (somewhere around 1987), October 10th if I remember correctly that caused a lot of tree damage in the Hudson Valley? Did NYC get a trace out of that Don? That might be our earliest Trace of snow if so?

He wanted to let the sun warm us up lol. rainy chilly days OMG

yep and it can't really snow that time of year anyway warm and sunny and dry is the ideal Fall weather for me. When I was a teenager and younger during the 80s I used to shiver in early October because my parents refused to turn on the heat before October 15th, I really hated that lol. Before that when we lived in an apartment the landlord would not turn on the heat before November 1st-- even worse lol. Last fall was absolutely awesome and I didn't even think of turning on the heat until November 15th. I hate temperatures colder than the 70s without any heat.

light pollution causes major health issues too (including 30% higher rates of cancer).

Thanks, any earlier hints in the historical data from the first half of the 1800s or even earlier Don?

what did you think of October-first half of November temps in the 70s and sunny are nice, save on heating lol

and with the requisite bugs

ideal weather, rain one day a week, 70s and sun 6 days a week

I just hope it does not interfere with my stargazing!

honestly winter to summer is much better, I find spring to be useless. I want either 30s and snow or 70s and sunshine.

Yes, the October snowtober was a very anomalous event, has there been an earlier significant snowfall ever in NYC Don?

we'll get the southern part of that

Don that was the era when we used to get snow even from hurricanes a Cat 2 hurricane from October 1804 comes to mind, it bisected Long Island and snow fell with temps in the 30s.

it's sad because our winters are so much milder, might as well have an early start to the warm season.

you rarely see all day rain this time of year, usually just showers and thunderstorms.

Sweden is too conservative. The other Nordic nations are far better, they don't allow crap chemicals in their food, they don't allow corporations to run their political system, they don't have a diabetes epidemic going on and they have far higher literacy rates and a longer life expectancy and best of all, they are science based not money based. I've lived in Europe and they are MUCH healthier and most of my digestive and other health issues disappeared when I lived there. Guess who the police state is now.... this country. This is what happens when crapitalism becomes an oligarchy, for the rich and the rich alone. That makes the entirety of society suffer when they get away with literal murder. Mr. Moss was able to obtain documents that support this entire story. Michael Moss stated, “What I found, over four years of research and reporting, was a conscious effort — taking place in labs and marketing meetings and grocery-store aisles — to get people hooked on foods that are convenient and inexpensive.” Mr. Moss interviewed over 300 people who had been involved, or were still involved, with the food industry. In this article, he relays examples of how certain foods were formulated to make products irresistible to consumers. Foods that he mentioned in the magazine article were Dr. Pepper soft drink, Prego spaghetti sauce, Lunchables with dessert, the line extension for Lay’s potato chips, and several other major processed foods. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/26/990821079/cheap-legal-and-everywhere-how-food-companies-get-us-hooked-on-junk

heaviest rain NW of us as forecast

how are you guys ahead of us? I have the same small green buds that I had 2 weeks ago, the only thing that's changed is my cherry tree has blossomed as of yesterday. also got plenty of tulips.

Wow any idea how much might have fallen and are there any maps anywhere from that storm, Don?

I mean the brain isn't fully developed until age 25 so medically speaking, the older the better.

This almost sounds like the very early season event NYC had in October 2011 which dumped 3 inches of snow (coincidentally enough.) I don't know if this was NYC's earliest snowfall but if it was, it would be funny if the earliest and latest NYC snowfalls were both 3 inches!!!

1875 - New York City received three inches of snow, the latest measurable snow of record for that location. (David Ludlum) LONG LIVE APRIL 1875! I JUST FIND IT A LITTLE WEIRD THAT THEIR LATEST MEASURABLE SNOWFALL WAS 3 INCHES LOL. NORMALLY YOU'D EXPECT A MUCH SMALLER AMOUNT TO BE THE LATEST MEASURABLE SNOWFALL, I THINK IF WE GO FURTHER BACK INTO NEW YORK CITY HISTORY WE'LL FIND MEASURABLE SNOWFALL IN MAY. I'M SURPRISED THERE WASN'T ANY ON MAY 9 1977 WHEN PROVIDENCE, RI GOT 7 INCHES.

the sky has been pale yellow all day this fire was set by a 19 yr old kid on purpose? No one under 21 should be allowed outside their house unattended.

Heaviest rain and highest totals to our NW?

it's great to be talking about trees on Arbor Day!