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    Big New England heat 7/19-21

    in New England

    Posted

    28 minutes ago, STILL N OF PIKE said:

    Of course it’s hyped

    if people don’t understand hype and crisis fast track action then they don’t understand human nature or politics 

    The sea level is gonna rise a meter in next xyz years lol I bet it is, and if it doesn’t we “were lucky” and not bullshitted to fast track plans that more than likely were trying to create some fund (to “save the environment” ) that can be looted by officials . This basic alarm emotion response pattern is played out for all of time .

    i do believe there is current warming and I don’t beleive it’s a crisis. 

    Lets erase all these garbage posts 

    It's not a crisis to you living in your cumfy home in Andover. But to people living in more vulnerable communities, to wildlife, to the oceans, coral reefs, etc, it is a crisis. 

    It's like saying you dont think AIDS is a crisis because you dont have AIDS.

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    Big New England heat 7/19-21

    in New England

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

    Did you know National Climate Assessment says heat waves are occurring less and are shorter? Most of our "new climate summers " as has been stated in here is driven by higher minimums 

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    Makes sense in comparison to the dewpoint chart posted the other day. When the air dry it heats up fast, when its laden with moisture, it takes more energy to heat up. 

    Generally, the more humid the air, the lower the temps. 

    July 2019 General Discussions & Observations Thread

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    19 minutes ago, CIK62 said:

    This graphic sums it up.      Normal or briefly BN incoming, Tues-Wed.     Then maybe 1-2 more 90's at end of month, for warmest areas.    Normals start down after July 23 anyway, and by Aug. 01 the whole hemisphere is losing more heat energy than it is gaining at the surface.

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    We usually average the same or similar number of 90 degree days in August as July. Check out Sacrus stats for the past 7 years.

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    Clouds and temperature

    in Climate Change

    Posted

    On 7/10/2019 at 1:58 PM, Leitwolf said:

    Hello to the community

    I wanted to find out how clouds affect surface temperature. Regrettably I could not find a lot of usefull information on this issue, except for sources I do not fully trust.

    So I downloaded some raw data from the NOAA that include both cloud condition (although only up to 12.000ft) and temperature, those were about 100 Mio records. Then I did some programming in good old C to extract the data I was looking for.

    What I found, after some proper filtering (location, season, day time), is a distinct pattern in the correlation between cloudiness and temperature. Of the 5 basic cloud conditions (CLR, FEW, SCT, BKN, OVC), CLR and OVC are about equally cold, while the intermediate scenarios are warmer. In fact the chart describes a nice little curve.

    That far there is no specific trend, as the curve is largely symmetric. Of course this result is a bit odd, since clouds are expected to cool Earth in the context of climatology. If that was true we should see some effect on the mirco level if you will, and have lower temperatures with clouds.

    Now here is the real problem:

    On the one side I want to understand why there is this curvy shape and on the other side I have yet to allow for another bias which is rain. Rain sharply reduces surface temperatures and it is of course strongly correlated to cloudiness. In fact you get a logarithmic shaped curve if you plot the amount of rain against those 5 cloud conditions (there is some rain reported with CLR skies though, which is due to the 12.000ft reporting ceiling).

    So since rain has an increasing chilling effect with stronger cloudiness, this is a perfect explanation for the described curve. But then this bias by rain masks a correlation which seems otherwise quite linear in nature: the more clouds, the warmer.

    But if that is so, and clouds actually warm the surface, the whole GHE (due to GHGs) is shattered.

     

     

     

     

    You nailed it. Man made global warming has been debunked because the earth, while recording record temps year after year, is covered in clouds, which should be warming it. Solid logic. 

    July 2019 General Discussions & Observations Thread

    in New York City Metro

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

    Great Neck to Lloyd Harbor getting crushed, maybe 2-3” of rain there in an hour. Here lots of loud thunder but still not one drop. This current batch looks like it will stick very near the sound. Hopefully the batch over central NJ stays together. 

    Looks like we will get it soon. Line is exploding south. I don’t need storms, just rain. 

    After that microburst I’m all set on storms

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