snowman19

They absolutely have, you even admitted it in the ENSO thread @cmillzz

The models have already begun to back off the blocking

Letting my Pivotalwx subscription expire tonight. Not worth paying for it anymore. I’ll renew it again in mid-November like I normally do

Thankfully normal highs are well in the 50’s in the NYC metro area now that we’re in spring, so those depicted negative departures are not actually “cold”

300+ hour snowmap on the op GFS at the end of March. That deserves a double bun!! lmfaoooooo

Is the Spring Equinox going to get delayed on Friday?

As of yesterday, we now have a September sun angle. Climo is now fully in spring mode and length of day increases exponentially this month…..

As of yesterday, we now have a September sun angle. Climo is now fully in spring mode and length of day increases exponentially this month…..

It’s all hypothetical speculation at this point. Long, long way to go before we can say with any confidence if this is going to be a super El Niño event or not. Then, if (IF) it does in fact become a super event….is it east-based (82-83, 97-98)? Or basin-wide (15-16)? Paul Roundy is extremely confident that this El Niño at least STARTS as an east-based event regardless of strength, where it goes from there is anyone’s guess right now…..

The 97-98 super Nino winter actually wasn’t a huge torch. It was just too warm to snow. There were a bunch of coastal storms with temps in the 30’s. The problem was it was extremely east-based, region 1+2 was over +4.0C, a secondary area of convective forcing formed there, which completely displaced the Aleutian Low over Alaska (++EPO) and the EPO floodgates were wide open all winter long with PAC air inundating Canada and the CONUS

Eric Webb touched on this back in November. He said we were exactly following the previous winter precursor patterns that culminated in the super El Niño’s of 82-83, 97-98 and 15-16

If (IF) there’s actually a super El Niño (region 3.4 over +2.0C), it’s very, very unlikely to be a cold winter. Snow is a different matter, since one major KU can skew the entire winter (i.e., 82-83, 15-16). 97-98 was a total dud for snow obviously

Let it go, let it goCan't hold it back anymoreLet it go, let it goTurn away and slam the doorI don't care what they're going to sayLet the storm rage onThe cold never bothered me anyway Let it go, let it go…..

The National Weather Service disagrees. Here is the 2:00pm updated disco: “The cold front should move through early Thursday morning, so after a relatively mild Wednesday night with lows in the 40s, winds switch quickly to the NW as a continental polar air mass moves in. High temps in the 50s will likely be achieved in the morning, with temps falling into the 40s after fropa, and then to the upper 20s and 30s Thu night. Post-frontal rain showers could mix with or change to wet snow showers just before precip ends. Boundary temps will be noticeably milder than aloft, so any wet snowflakes will have difficulty accumulating. Liquid precipitation amounts are likely to range from 1/4 to 1/2 inch, with the higher amts from NYC north/west where stronger showers/thunderstorms are expected.” Forecast for Rockland County: “Thursday Rain showers before 2pm, then a chance of rain and snow showers. Temperature falling to around 40 by 9am. Northwest wind 13 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.”

Winter’s back is broken. All the snowcover is gone, snow mounds/piles are gone. Birds are all back, out singing in the morning. Groundhogs, skunks and chipmunks are out of hibernation. Peepers are back out at night. Flies and bees are out today. Mother Nature says winter is over….