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23 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

96-99 was insanely bad...that said, 96-97 was a great winter for areas say north of the PA/NY border, we simply got very unlucky with a few setups here, 97-98 98-99 were horrendous though...remember that the 5 boroughs had no Winter Storm Watch issued at all from late March 1996 til 12/28/00....the January 2000 event would have had one issued but due to the model issues the area went straight to a warning...to go that long where at 24-48 hours no storm was going to obviously produce 6 inches or more of snow or 0.25 inches of ice is an impressive run

86 through 90 was another incredibly bad period. That average snowfall was spot on to our past few years. 15.85 average across those years in CPK I believe.

1 hour ago, kat5hurricane said:

NYC averages 25-30 inches a year. This isn't Atlanta. What we've seen the last few winters is NOT the normal outcome.

Unfortunately this area is all or nothing a lot of the time.

The second half of the 1980s averaged 15.85 inches.

The last 4 years of the 1990s averaged 11.125.

That 25 to 30 average is heavily skewed by 2 periods, 1955 through 1969 (a LOT of KUs that period) as well as 2000 through 2018.

Keep in mind CPK had only 5 winters in 30 years (70 through 99) with at least average snowfall. 

That 30 year average was 21.90667

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Yes 14-15 was one of my favorites too.  I think December was mild though? I remember the new england forum was worried because they hadn't had much snow by January 15th.  The rarest of rare winters are the ones that are snowy from December thru March (and sometimes November and April too!)

That is insane about NYC and the other thing is NYC never even reached 30 inches of snowfall between 1978-79 and 1992-93.  JFK did reach 30 inches of snowfall in 1982-83 though so that was above normal here.

My bad meant 13/14. 

If we are really heading through another 30 year period like 70 through 99, being a few degrees warmer would actually increase snowfall (except the 90s which were an inferno).

7 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

I understand how much further west Atlanta is from NYC, but they are still east of the Applachians, and a heckuva lot farther south than us to be colder than us. 

To me Panama City right on the Gulf Coast at 24 is really impressive given how warm the Gulf waters are.

7 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

We also have been snowstarved.

At least we had 20/21 as a solidly above average snowfall winter.

21/22 was ok just below average.

They have had ratter after ratter.

Just now, bluewave said:

Another case of the coldest departures and temperatures dropping to our west.

 

 

It's incredible how many all time records were set in this latest arctic blast (Allsnow referenced a few)! I will be honest I am happy to not have to worry about frozen pipes lol.

Out of curiosity, what caused the Arctic outbreak of the late 70s? A lot of all time cold records were set those years.

3 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Looks like Tuesday night is the next crack at a couple of inches, but we're onto February for anything overly impactful.

EPS looks like it gets us to a better place quicker than the GEFS and GEPS.

10 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

1-3 pike south Friday . We take it 

11 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Single digits also back in the day

When Washington crossed the Delaware there were ice jams. Can only imagine how they survived those winters.

4 minutes ago, psv88 said:

What about us. It’s been a while up here too

I think their last above average snowfall season was 15/16. 

Just now, MJO812 said:

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I honestly am happy for DC and Philly this year.

NYC currently 19.

Panama City Florida is only 24 lol.

From this morning

A lot of spread on the MJO front

24 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

12 degrees in Atlanta currently 

Impressive cold shot for sure with lots of broken records.

Unlike 15/16 this shot was a bit further west.

34 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Here's an interesting thing about 15-16, popular opinion is that it was a one storm wonder, but it was really more than that.  Long Island got hit with a storm that dumped a foot of snow in February and even the city got 4-6 inches and  a crane fell in Manhattan in that storm.  There was another storm in February that year too, around the superbowl I think? And NYC went below zero on Valentine's Day!  Besides the torch in December, we had a nice winter, much better than the last 2 that's for sure.  JFK had over 40" of snow and parts of Long Island had 50"

and I remember a few things about 82-83, besides the February 1983 HECS, we had our latest accumulating snowfall on record on April 19-20, 1983.  JFK got 2 inches in that storm and inland areas got 1-2 feet!  So even if the el nino is very strong, you can count on either getting hit by a snowstorm late in the season or having a close call.  Pretty much all you can ask for.  Very rarely do we get winters that are snowy beginning to end, I think the last one we had was 2002-03 and 1995-96  and 1993-94 before that.  I have not had any others here in my lifetime.

 

I would put 14/15 almost as high as 03 and 96, we snowed all the way till March when everything was suppressed to DC (was not like we warmed up or anything).

Yeah in 15/16 my town reached average snowfall with a mid March 3 incher.

82/83 had those storms, however CPK only reached average snowfall with 27.2, and was actually the only winter in the entire decade to reach average snowfall (the decade snowfall average was 19.74 inches).

What's absolutely insane is CPK reached average snowfall only 5 seasons in 30 years! 77/78, 78/79, 82/83, 93/94, 95/96.

What's even more amazing is CPK had only three years with above average snowfall in 30 years.

55 through 69 and 00 through 18 inflated CPKs average annual snowfall.

1 minute ago, Rmine1 said:

Fitting. When we have marginal airmass, we get smoked by the mid layer warmth. Now we have the cold, but we’re too progressive to overcome the low dews. If I interpreted that correctly, inland will be on the outside looking in?

It stinks but it does happen a lot through history.

5 minutes ago, TriPol said:

Nickels and dimes add up to dollars. Never forget that.

Not adding up fast enough 

26 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

those winters weren't lucky so much as we had better blocking (a Kara block in 15-16 and the 80s were colder in general than we are now.)

 

I think 82/83 had more to do with blocking as well.

Does anyone have temp stats on the 80s? I remember them being cold dry warm and wet like now with areas like kC setting cold records like now while we either roasted or was frigid but ended up raining anyway.

30 minutes ago, tristateweatherFB said:

Did you see how phase 6 is in February?

Hoping it dies in 6 and re emerges in 1 like the last wave.

2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Phases 4-5-6 have been favored last few winters due to warm SST's in that area.   Phase 8 has been almost non exisitent

Phases 1, 2 and 3 are also catching up as the waters in the IO have risen dramatically. That's likely why we just witnessed the loop in phases 2 and 3 (amplitude in 1 as well).

Yeah 7 and 8 not looking good.

1 minute ago, MJO812 said:

Mjo might get stuck in the warm phases. If that's the case then close the shades.

Strong El Ninos are rarely good. We were lucky to get KUs in 82/83 as well as 15/16 otherwise both would have been way below average snowfall. 

97/98 type annual snowfall still on the table for now, hopefully it changes for February.

It may linger in the warm phases for a bit, however with the warm waters off Africa we should get a lingering presence in phases 1 and 2. We shall see.

Not to be negative and it may only be temporary but hated the ends of the GEPS and GEFS runs.

I HATE strong El ninos.

Still light snow in Easton CT. Just hit 1.5 inches

Still light snow in Easton CT. Just hit 1.5 inches.